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Bill: Military Revoke and Modernization Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: LiberalDemocrats
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3503
Description[?]:
| to revoke past mistakes and modernize our military and civil defence |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:08:11, June 17, 2013 CET | From | LiberalDemocrats | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | anyone against this? |
| Date | 21:43:33, June 17, 2013 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | We believe that all who complete their education should give back to the nation, which has given them so much. Whether the individual wishes to enlist in the volunteer Telamonian armed forces or instead choose to work a term in the civil service. The civil service, as we all know since we employ individuals within it, helps Telamon to accomplish the daily tasks necessary for its continued growth and operation. We also strongly believe it to be important for necessary shelters to exist for use should our nation ever come under attack. Thankfully we are a peaceful nation, under no threat, and a threat to none. The Conservative Ordo Malleus would rather local authorities to construct and maintain shelters so that they can determine the need of those in their communities. The Telamonian Parliament can, instead, maintain our budget as a reasonable level and use funds for things such as education, scientific advancement, and medical care. As such, we wish to work with the LiberalDemocrats party to insure the passage of Article 2 in the proposed Military Revoke and Modernization Act. Yet, we cannot support articles 1 and 3 as written. Is there some common ground that we may find? Perhaps the local authorities can determine the needs and maintain the shelters while the central Telamonian Parliament can fund the initial construction or help defray the cost of initial constructoin? |
| Date | 10:22:44, June 18, 2013 CET | From | LiberalDemocrats | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | the liberaldemocrats propose that we change article one in a form that civil services are needed, but military services not that much, and we will scrap article 3 |
| Date | 10:26:25, June 18, 2013 CET | From | LiberalDemocrats | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | with the new article 2(old article 1) the liberaldemocrats can agree. we would also agree with a year in military during wartime. what does the COM think? |
| Date | 22:16:28, June 18, 2013 CET | From | Conservative Ordo Malleus (COM) | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | At this time there is no threat to Telamon. We are blessed to live in a time of peace and prosperity. We agree to pass this bill as proposed: Article 1: Homosexuality is allowed in the military. Article 2: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service. There is one stipulation to our support. Should the need arise, this legislative body will immediately, and without controversy nor amendments, agree to institute the below law: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option. Are we under agreement? |
| Date | 11:08:46, June 19, 2013 CET | From | LiberalDemocrats | To | Debating the Military Revoke and Modernization Act |
| Message | we have an agreement. let's start the voting |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 333 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 417 |
| Random fact: "OOC", "IC" and "IG" are commonly-used acronyms in Particracy. "OOC" refers to comments, discussions and actions which are out-of-character, meaning they are done player-to-player rather than party-to-party. "IC" refers to in-character interactions (ie. party-to-party). Similarly, "IG" means in-game, although this term may also simply refer to what happens in the actual game interface, as opposed to on the forum or elsewhere. "RP" just means "role-play". |
| Random quote: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - Howard Zinn |