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Bill: Constitutional Reform Proposal

Details

Submitted by[?]: Justice, Development and Freedom

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 3517

Description[?]:

As we both desire and require consensus in order to pass this bill, Justice, Development and Freedom requests views on the proposals in this bill.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:08:55, July 17, 2013 CET
FromJustice, Development and Freedom
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageWe propose to:

1. Seperate out the Head of State and Head of Government as seperate positions, creating a new Prime Minister position and in doing so make our system more parliamentary.

2. Allocate seats to regions based on population size, rather than the current system which unfairly overrepresents depopulated regions and underrepresents populated ones.

3. Double the length of the parliamentary term. At the current length of the term almost half the parliament is taken up by coalition negotiations or a in which legislation cannot be presented as it will be thrown into debate by the election.

4. Reducing the number of seats in parliament. Let us reduce the costs of politics. We do not need 750 MPs to run our legislature!

Date01:38:32, July 17, 2013 CET
FromThe Al'Badaran Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageThe ALP would like to see a change in quotas added to this bill

We would suggest that the upper cap for storage of proposals be upped, and the distribution level be lowered, the ALP would suggest lowering proposals would encourage smarter bill making.

Date07:23:54, July 17, 2013 CET
FromHizb Al-Ahrar (Liberal Party)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageAgree with article 1 & 2.

OOC: However, the reason for 750 seats is because it best represents the popular vote. Also I'd recommend 42 months as that is one week IRL.

Date10:59:51, July 17, 2013 CET
FromGreen Republic Party (GRP)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageAgree with all bar the 750 reduction. I think the proposal quota is fine as it is.

Date12:04:05, July 17, 2013 CET
FromJustice, Development and Freedom
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageWe have removed the reduction in seats and added some proposals regarding legislative proposals. Do we have consensus?

Date12:47:54, July 17, 2013 CET
FromHizb Al-Ahrar (Liberal Party)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageI still think lowering the legislative term to 42 months is ideal as it then last a week in real life, as opposed to 8 days.

Date13:13:07, July 17, 2013 CET
FromProgressive Conservative Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageThe Progressive Conservatives are against lowering the number of seats for certain regions and therefore reducing their voice in Parliament. We also express concern over the longer term of the executive and legislature.

Articles 1, 4 & 5 are however sensible proposals.

Date13:16:43, July 17, 2013 CET
FromGreen Republic Party (GRP)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageI'm agreed on these proposals.

Date16:28:34, July 17, 2013 CET
FromJustice, Development and Freedom
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageJustice, Development and Freedom feels a legislative term of 3.5 years is inherently a 'bit weird'. Yes, that is our official stance. We'd prefer either 48 months or 36 months to 42.

On the different weightings for the provinces point, it is worth noting that it will make barely any difference as the provinces are all roughly equal in size anyway. However, we feel it is a point of fairness that all votes should hold, as close as possible, an equal value.

Date17:49:18, July 17, 2013 CET
FromGreen Republic Party (GRP)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageShall we begin voting on this then? I think we have near enough a consensus...

Date19:03:32, July 17, 2013 CET
FromJustice, Development and Freedom
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageDue to our desire for consensus, we shall wait a little longer for consensus, but if there are no more responses we will push forward to a vote shortly.

Date19:25:17, July 17, 2013 CET
FromHizb Al-Ahrar (Liberal Party)
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageI am happy to agree to longer terms, just 42 months is the most convenient out of the possible options in my opinion.

Date19:36:24, July 17, 2013 CET
FromThe Al'Badaran Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageThe ALP would prefer to see 42 month terms, however, is happy to vote for it in its current form

Date19:37:33, July 17, 2013 CET
FromJustice, Development and Freedom
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageDue to negotiations with the ALP, and bowing to the honestly held opinion of the Liberal Party we accede to the desire for a 3.5 year term.

For what it's worth Justice, Development and Freedom's constitutional advisor stated that 'those fellas are crazy, yo'

Date19:37:41, July 17, 2013 CET
FromThe Al'Badaran Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageThe ALP would prefer to see 42 month terms, however, is happy to vote for it in its current form

Date19:40:16, July 17, 2013 CET
FromThe Al'Badaran Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Constitutional Reform Proposal
MessageThe ALP would prefer to see 42 month terms, however, is happy to vote for it in its current form

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 651

no
 

Total Seats: 92

abstain
   

Total Seats: 7


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