We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics
Details
Submitted by[?]: Great National Republican Guard
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3554
Description[?]:
| Ratifying this would allow us to join the Indralan Commonwealth without giving up our sovereignty. It is an amendment to this treaty: http://classic.particracy.net/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=2533 -- Indralan politicians, and representatives of other nations in the Commonwealth, are allowed to comment on the matter. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:57:32, July 23, 2013 CET | From | La Concertación de Partidos Egelian | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | We don't see any problems with this matter. We would love for Lodamun to join us in friendship and in commonwealth. Hope to see you at the conference here in Egelion. His Excellency Viceroy of the People, Prince Julio Silvestre Duke of Amateria Egelian Branch of the Indralan Commonwealth |
| Date | 12:25:15, July 23, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | As I have previously stated, my party is dedicated to retaining our sovereignty and our values. We are inherently opposed to joining Indrala's Commonwealth. Indrala is claiming that Lodamun has cultural ties to them because of the Anantan Empire, which existed in the 1400s. It is now 3519. Lodamun can have friendship with Indrala without succumbing to its Commonwealth. We are a strong, powerful nation, we do not need to be a part of another country's Commonwealth. Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 14:57:39, July 23, 2013 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | You still haven't proven how these treaties have anything to do with our independence or sovereignty. It's like talking about obesity when the topic is "music" - shut up already. -- Edwin Fertig, President |
| Date | 16:47:45, July 23, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | You're proposing that Lodamun becomes a member of INDRALA'S Commonwealth. Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 04:09:48, July 24, 2013 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | That has nothing to do with independence or sovereignty. Our government will still be independent, and we will still maintain our sovereignty without recognising the Indralan monarch as our head of state. -- Edwin Fertig, LNP Leader |
| Date | 06:50:08, July 24, 2013 CET | From | La Concertación de Partidos Egelian | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | As addressed before, it is called the Indralan Commonwealth due to the founding nation of it was Indrala. It could have easily been called the Egelian Commonwealth. The title doesn't matter. It's what the commonwealth does and can do for nations. The reason we had the Emperor as our Head of State is because we, Egelion, felt it like it was a good idea for our nation. Now if you feel differently, you DO NOT have to have him as your head of state. Please actually read what you are protesting. Prince Julio Silvestre Viceroy of the People Duke of Amteria |
| Date | 12:29:56, July 24, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | For us the title does matter and as I have said we oppose Lodamun joining the Indralan Commonwealth. Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 15:59:55, July 24, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | Also, as we are constantly being told that Lodamun will not have to have Indrala's Emperor as head of state why does the Indralan Emperor claim to be the 'Sovereign of Lodamun'? If we join the Indralan Commonwealth, and the Indralan Emperor claims to be 'Sovereign of Lodamun', then our fears will be proven correct in the eyes of many. Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 21:19:13, July 24, 2013 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | If you care to learn to read, please do so and see that the treaty says that we won't have to recognise such claims. This amendment specifically addresses the problem that Nationalists had with the original treaty. Stop making our nation look stupid. You're an embarrassment to it. -- Cullen Scrivenor, Foreign Minister |
| Date | 22:59:47, July 24, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | Regardless, the Indralan monarch still claims to be our 'Sovereign' which is completely unacceptable. They call themselves 'nationalists', they are more interested in Indrala's interests! Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 00:54:44, July 25, 2013 CET | From |  姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, While the Indralan Monarch claims to be the "Sovereign of Lodamun", the Government of Indrala shall not push such a claim. We, unlike other nations, will not push for a claim militarily. We will follow the will of the people and the people of Lodamun do not want the Indralan Monarch as their Head of State, that is clear at the moment. Indrala shall not rule or reign over Lodamun. |
| Date | 01:57:13, July 25, 2013 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | Honourable Indralan delegates, Understand that the LFP doesn't know the difference between the Indralan government and the Indralan monarch. Even if we were supposed to recognize the Indralan monarch as our head of state, the LFP would think that it means we would be subject to the rule of the Indralan government. They know nothing about politics except how to make baseless arguments. -- Edwin Fertig, LNP Leader |
| Date | 10:42:06, July 25, 2013 CET | From | United Struggle for Blacks in Lodamun | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | The the Lodamese Nationalists, or should I say Indralan Nationalists considering it is the Federalists who represent the patriotic Lodamese people, should stop trying to shout down views that they disagree with. It is very dangerous. Why is Edwin Fertig's party so keen on joining the Indralan Commonwealth anyway when the Indralan's have suggested themselves that Lodamun could have good relations with their country without Lodamun joining their Commonwealth? Victor Steele, LFP Leader |
| Date | 15:06:34, July 25, 2013 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Ratification of the Indralan Commonwealth Amendment - Commonwealth Republics |
| Message | Why doesn't Steele shut the hell up? The Nationalists simply introduced the bill to discussion; we never said we are in favour of the Commonwealth or not. We have been, so far, merely discussing it. And the party isn't "Edwin Fertig's party" - Edwin Fertig is just the current leader. The members of the party own the party. We are not trying to "shout down" views we disagree with. We simply mentioned that your party is full of incompetent idiots who don't know the difference between the government and the apolitical Indralan monarch. This is a proven, by your own words, fact. -- Cullen Scrivenor, Foreign Minister |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 290 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
| Random fact: Large scale RP planning (such as wars, regional/continental conflicts, economic collapse, etc.) should be planned (as best as it can be) and should have consent of a majority of players involved. |
| Random quote: "The decadent international but individualistic capitalism in the hands of which we found ourselves after the war is not a success. It is not intelligent. It is not beautiful. It is not just. It is not virtuous. And it doesn't deliver the goods." - John Maynard Keynes |