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Bill: Freedom to Abort
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Reform Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2159
Description[?]:
| It is not the governments place to step into the personal lives of our people, and have such laws banning abortion. We must revert back to our past law in order to protect the rights of the people! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: All abortions are illegal.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:01:19, December 20, 2005 CET | From | Memorare Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | We support the rights of people..be they in the home, in the labour force or in the womb. The Child in the womb has the right to protection and dignity the same as anyone else. |
| Date | 22:15:38, December 20, 2005 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | Agreed with MP. We respect the civil rights of the unborn child. |
| Date | 06:17:26, December 21, 2005 CET | From | Memorare Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | This is an outrage.... you want to increase the population but you are killing the unborn.... |
| Date | 12:35:03, December 21, 2005 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | You assume, then, by legalizing abortion, every woman will go and get one? No! Abortion is not a good thing. Abortion is not a happy thing. No one *wants* to get an abortion! No one just has sex thinking, "Oh I will just get abortion if I get pregnant!" That is not the case at all. It is a hard decision, it is hard to consider getting rid of a fetus. However, it is a choice women must have. Why does the government have the right to say, "No, you cannot do this!" Look at our proposal. The first and second trimesters! Can a fetus even live outside the mother at that time? No it cannot. And ICP, it is truely sickening to see you putting a fetus above a full-grown woman. |
| Date | 13:00:34, December 21, 2005 CET | From | Memorare Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | The 'fetus' has rights, it is a humanlife...18000 aprrox children a year would die if we returned abortion laws to there old ways(based on r/l average western stats, conservative guess really being their are 1800 a year in NZ-Population 4 mill and excellent living standards) These thousands of Children have the right to live, we have no more right to kill them in the womb as I have the right to murder you....noone has the right to murder someone. "The greatest destroyer of peace is abortion because if a mother can kill her own child, what is left for me to kill you and you to kill me? There is nothing between." Mother Theresa |
| Date | 12:26:05, December 22, 2005 CET | From | Memorare Party | To | Debating the Freedom to Abort |
| Message | Notes also a newborn or a toddler cant live outside alone either....nor can the extreme elderly look after themselves..... Is it ok to kill children and the elderly simply cos they cannot look after themsleves? what about the 'retarded'... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 179 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 421 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Information about the population of each country can be found on the Population Information thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8663 |
| Random quote: "You will win, but you will not convince. You will win, because you possess more than enough brute force, but you will not convince, because to convince means to persuade. And in order to persuade you would need what you lack, reason and right in the struggle." - Miguel de Unamuno |