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Bill: OOC: Naming and Language Guide
Details
Submitted by[?]: Workers' Party of Cobura
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4521
Description[?]:
As per the Cultural Protocols (http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=447049), the five major languages in Cobura are Augustan (Esperanto), Irkawan (Coptic), Mallan (Amharic), Tokundian (Serbian), and Majatran (Arabic). As mentioned in the Cultural Protocol, it is recommended that party and character names be in one or several of those languages. Because many players may not be familiar with those languages, and because it is not easy to find name generators or online translators for many of them, this bill will offer a brief guide on the use of those languages in Particracy. 1. Augustan (Esperanto) Because Esperanto is not, in real life, connected to any particular culture, first names and surnames in Esperanto are not particularly common. There is, however, a number of names created in Esperanto: http://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/esperanto For surnames, I recommend you use random common nouns, especially nouns that describe professions. Google translate includes Esperanto, so that should not be a problem. Additionally, considering that Augustans are the IG equivalent of Byzantine Greeks, one can use Esperantified versions of Greek and Latin names and surnames. To fit them into Esperanto, only a few changes need to be made: all male names must end in "o" (replacing "-os", "-us", "-is", "-ou"), all female names must end in "a", "x" becomes "ks", "kh"/"ch" becomes "ĥ", "ae"/"ai" becomes "aj", "oe"/"oi" becomes "oj", "au"/"eu" becomes "aŭ"/eŭ", "y" becomes "i", "c" becomes "k". List of Augustan names and surnames: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=466506 Greek name & surname generator: http://www.behindthename.com/random/random.php?number=4&gender=m&surname=&randomsurname=yes&all=no&usage_gre=1 Ancient Greek name & surname generator: http://www.behindthename.com/random/random.php?number=4&gender=m&surname=&randomsurname=yes&all=no&usage_grea=1 Latin name & surname generator: http://www.behindthename.com/random/random.php?number=4&gender=m&surname=&randomsurname=yes&all=no&usage_roma=1 You can also easily use google translate for your party name. Additionally, wikipedia in Esperanto has a large number of articles, including on political topics, so that may also be of assistance. Since Augustan uses the Greek alphabet in Particracy, here is a guide for transliterating into the Greek alphabet: https://sites.google.com/site/wurdbendur/esperanto_greek More information here: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Augustan_language 2. Irkawan (Coptic) Coptic is a bit more problematic, as it is no longer a living language, and online resources on it are relatively scarce. Moreover, most Egyptian Copts have Arabic surnames, so purely Coptic surnames are difficult to find. For the language, here is one dictionary: http://www.stantonius-kroeffelbach.de/dkb-buecher-downloads/verschiedenes/674-koptisches-woerterbuch.html (it has to be downloaded) alternate dictionary: http://www.metalog.org/files/crum.html third dictionary: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://copticlang.bizhat.com/coptdict.pdf&q=coptic%20dictionary&ved=0ahUKEwiBl-KhsunLAhVDvHIKHdMgBwIQFggcMAI&usg=AFQjCNFKmji6MMWHwhSSnoAAaJOln5DQJg&sig2=K0O4fTHGq4nFfAHzZXmLYQ Phrasebook for modern political terms: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=400729 Here is a list of Coptic first names: http://www.behindthename.com/submit/names/usage/coptic Another list of Coptic first names: (female) http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=447133 (male) http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=447141 For surnames, I suggest the same method as for Esperanto, namely the use of random profession titles. Here is a list of profession names in Coptic: http://www.coptica.ch/Ahmed-Professions.pdf 3. Mallan (Amharic) Amharic, while being a living language with a relative large number of speakers, is also quite difficult to obtain information on. Nonetheless, here is a dictionary for Amharic: http://www.amharicdictionary.com/ And a list of names: http://www.behindthename.com/submit/names/usage/ethiopian Plus, thankfully, Amharic is now on Google Translate. Fortunately, you don't need to find surnames for Amharic, simply because Ethiopian languages do not use surnames. Instead, people are known by their first name and their father's, and occasionally grandfather's, first name. So for Mallan characters you just need to use two or three Ethiopian names. 4. Other languages (Arabic and Serbian) There is no lack of resources on Arabic and Serbian. Behindthename's name generator (http://www.behindthename.com/random/) includes Serbian and Arabic names and surnames, and both languages are present on Google Translate. Additionally, the Arabic and Serbian versions of wikipedia are quite large and cover numerous articles. If there's any error on my part, or if you wish further assistance, either mention on the debate section below, or send me a PM. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 17:20:05, March 10, 2014 CET | From | Gay Gang | To | Debating the OOC: Naming and Language Guide |
Message | Since this is OOC, I aint changing my name to no espresso BS. Send me to another country if you will, but I did not know this when signing up. That, or change the language to english. say that whities came from somewhere and colonized us. |
Date | 11:45:57, June 22, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Conservatives | To | Debating the OOC: Naming and Language Guide |
Message | I would also ask I you can recognise the very small minority group of the Anglo-Saxons (population estimation: 47,000) |
Date | 12:11:20, July 20, 2015 CET | From | Royal People's Party | To | Debating the OOC: Naming and Language Guide |
Message | OOC: I'll point out how I use Coptic, not sure how Polites does it. To use Coptic, find the word you want in one of the dictionaries, then use an alphabet table to transcribe the letters. I use the one on wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_alphabet |
Date | 23:05:40, September 08, 2016 CET | From | Enarekh Koinonia | To | Debating the OOC: Naming and Language Guide |
Message | https://glosbe.com/en/cop/ |
Date | 22:02:27, January 24, 2019 CET | From | Moderation | To | Debating the OOC: Naming and Language Guide |
Message | OOC: Archiving |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |
yes | Total Seats: 0 | |
no | Total Seats: 750 | |
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
Random fact: Whilst the use of non-English languages can be appropriate for nation names, party names, constitutional titles and other variables, English is the official language of communication in the game. All descriptive texts and public communications should be in English or at least appear alongside a full English translation. |
Random quote: "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime." - Aristotle |