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Bill: Women's Right To Choose
Details
Submitted by[?]: LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2160
Description[?]:
Abortions are to be legal and left up to the mother in both the first and second trimesters, while in the third trimester the fetus may only be aborted for medical reasons. Women that are seeking an abortion should be referred to state-funded counselors. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:56:40, December 23, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | Women who murder their baby are not mothers, their crazed hamsters who need to be sterilized ASAP |
Date | 00:12:34, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | No, although I agree that women should have the right to choose whether to continue with a pregnancy by the second trimester the 'child' is no longer a simple zygote but a living being that can survive, with aid, if birthed at that point; as such I cannot vote in favour of this bill. If the bill stated that abortion was only allowed in the first trimester then I could agree with this, however since it includes the second trimester I cannot vote in favour. |
Date | 00:38:22, December 24, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | Hoorah! There is a reason you should be included in Beluzias Cabinet! Finially a voice of compassion on the Left! |
Date | 01:57:42, December 24, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | Actually fetuses can't survive outside of the womb until they have passed the limit of viablity which is currently estimated to be at around 24 weeks after conception. That point was what I was referring to when I was mentioning abortions during the second trimester, that point should have been clearer. |
Date | 17:45:31, December 24, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | Murdering babies is unhealthy. |
Date | 18:08:14, December 24, 2005 CET | From | Moderate Beluzians | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | For the record, we would have also voted no for this bill. |
Date | 23:34:36, December 25, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | And 24 weeks is during the second trimester thus my point still stands. |
Date | 08:00:32, December 26, 2005 CET | From | LiberalDemocraticFreedomTaxAndSpendParty | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | But that is the later part of the trimester, during the first half of the second trimester fetus is not capable of surviving outside of the mother's womb. |
Date | 16:05:05, December 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | An astronaut isn't capable of surviving outside of his space suit, does that mean his captain has a right to choose if he wants to eject him into space? |
Date | 16:05:24, December 26, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Women's Right To Choose |
Message | It is the Captains ship, after all... |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 10 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 52 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 38 |
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