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Bill: Nationalization of failing industries that provide vital goods or services
Details
Submitted by[?]: Trigunian Social-Democratic Workers
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2160
Description[?]:
| Nationalization of failing industries that provide vital goods or services |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government does not intervene in the market nor provide any form of subsidies/relief to industries.
Current: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Proposed: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:57:58, December 23, 2005 CET | From |  Liberty Party | To | Debating the Nationalization of failing industries that provide vital goods or services |
| Message | If the TSDW is confident that it can do a better job of running these companies, it is welcome to use its members' money to invest in these companies and take them over. Since the reality is likely to be that if the people who risked their own capital, and had experience of running such a business, couldn't succeed, then the chances of the TSDW doing a better job are slim to none, I would rather that they didn't use the power of the State to take my money by force and throw it at these failed ventures. |
| Date | 19:27:44, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Trigunian Social-Democratic Workers | To | Debating the Nationalization of failing industries that provide vital goods or services |
| Message | This does not increase taxes, so noone is taking anything by force. |
| Date | 20:23:20, December 23, 2005 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the Nationalization of failing industries that provide vital goods or services |
| Message | So which current funding are you proposing to cut in order to find the money to invest in these failing businesses? Since they are unprofitable and you intend not to let them fail, you will have to keep putting money into these businesses, so you will have to keep diverting funding away from things that government actually should be doing (e.g., law enforcement, defence) in order to dabble in business. If the taxes we pay at the moment are the right amount to pay for the services we *need* from government, then the redirection of taxes away from important services to pay for civil servants to play at running a business may not strictly be theft, but it is certainly unacceptable on every level. If instead you are suggesting that we are paying too much in tax at the moment for the services we *need*, why not pay us back the money you have already taken, and then those of us who trust you to run businesses can by choice give you the money for you to spend on your ventures? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 197 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 257 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 46 |
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