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Bill: Freedom Bill I
Details
Submitted by[?]: Beluzian Communist League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3577
Description[?]:
It's time for polygamy to be legalized or to atleast be discussed! Keeping a person from having a choice is wrong, even If disgusting to the person who sees it. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to polygamy.
Old value:: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships and prosecute those who pursue a polygamous lifestyle.
Current: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Proposed: The government does not recognise polygamous relationships.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:10:45, November 13, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Republic Independence Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | While I love the fact that this is essentially what we want (giving local governments power) we feel that this is a subject that is very touchy. We may be liberal but we are right liberal and we don't feel that this is needed both as a moral and as a culture nationalist. We vote NO on this one. We would be able to talk maybe if the proposal was to not recognize it but not to prosecute it, but right now we will always vote NO |
Date | 18:48:29, November 13, 2013 CET | From | Republican Democratic Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | If you think bit differently the situation of polygamy can be similar to homosexuality. People can have different opinions about it but it will be parliamentary overreach to forbid. |
Date | 18:48:39, November 13, 2013 CET | From | Republican Democratic Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | We agree |
Date | 18:56:27, November 13, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Communist League | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | Well, I really tried OCP.... To be honest i want the government to recognize it but i've already tried to appease everyone by just letting the local governments decide, which it is there full blown recognized right! |
Date | 18:58:37, November 13, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Communist League | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | So if it is a touchy subject, sorry we can't come to a conclusion. :( |
Date | 22:16:21, November 13, 2013 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | So, is there a conclusion you'll have reached at now? Because, I think I could support this. just one clarification, this law would be pure confusion, if someone indeed has a polygamous relationship with somebody from another state! And the states may have contradictory laws regarding polygamy! What then, just another complication I thought of...don't want to keep many open loopholes! ?? |
Date | 00:51:34, November 14, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Communist League | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | I suppose we could have it unrecognized and not persecuted for now until we get the facts straight? Any things better then persecution! |
Date | 00:54:38, November 14, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Communist League | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | Either way. Just like homosexual marriage, support will grow enough one day for it to get legalized, that is how most things of law. Orient goes now-a-days.. Freedom continues to ring and Beluzia Is at the forefront :). |
Date | 02:50:04, November 14, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Liberty Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | While this is a step in the right direction for the freedom for consenting adults to enter into contractual relationships we believe in polygamous and polyandrous relationships. It is simple, the government needs to get out of the marriage business and people need to stop pushing their morals on others. Who does this harm? If you don't like polygamy, don't do it, same for polyandry. We will support for the simple fact that it is a step in the right direction. Much more needs to be done in that regard. We will push for full freedom in the near future. |
Date | 18:08:02, November 14, 2013 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | If it doesn't recognise polygamy, what is the legal implication of polygamy then? That is, what happens if anyone is such a relationship. He/She won't care and e would look like being the super-moral police!! This doesn't help anyone. Either make it acceptable, completely illegal as it is now, or ensure that there is no legal standing at all- no law. This middle path serves no practical purpose. |
Date | 18:10:15, November 14, 2013 CET | From | United People's Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | I mean, they won't care because such a relationship, that they are in, has no legal implications, and we, as the Government, have only 'stated' that we do not recognise it. What use is such a law which is a mere statement with no real effects. Look at other proposals that could at least be of some use, I suggest. |
Date | 17:20:09, November 15, 2013 CET | From | Encarta Party | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | We shouldn't support polygamy. Why? Because polygamy always, always, always only results in polygyny. Polygyny is of course one man with many wives. This is a bad idea for social reasons. First of all, most women in polygamous relationships are uncomfortable with sharing their husband with many women. Secondly, with one person having many wives, it seems that we limit our genetic pool. If only say twenty percent of men in our nation have roughly sixty or seventy percent of the women, then we are looking at a stagnant and nearly useless gene pool. Polygamy is not bad just because. Polygamy is bad due to the social and biological effects it would have. |
Date | 19:02:24, November 15, 2013 CET | From | Beluzian Communist League | To | Debating the Freedom Bill I |
Message | Polygamy is bad in your eyes because you are ignorant. I do understand the issues though, but really... If polygamy were recognized, women would have a choice, not just some old pervert forcing women to marry him, but if it were in media, it would be accepted, and people would be fine about it. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes | Total Seats: 68 | |||
no | Total Seats: 170 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
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