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Bill: Budget proposal of February 3578
Details
Submitted by[?]: Popular Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3578
Description[?]:
| The Popular Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Republic of Dranland. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 10,000,000,000 DRA | 3,500,000,000 DRA | 1,500,000,000 DRA |
| Foreign Affairs | 30,000,000,000 DRA | 10,000,000,000 DRA | 10,000,000,000 DRA |
| Internal Affairs | 30,000,000,000 DRA | 60,642,700,000 DRA | 50,642,700,000 DRA |
| Finance | 25,000,000,000 DRA | 8,500,000,000 DRA | 850,000,000 DRA |
| Defence | 15,000,000,000 DRA | 55,000,000,000 DRA | 50,000,000,000 DRA |
| Justice | 30,000,000,000 DRA | 32,500,000,000 DRA | 18,500,000,000 DRA |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 70,000,000,000 DRA | 78,000,000,000 DRA | 40,000,000,000 DRA |
| Health and Social Services | 60,000,000,000 DRA | 408,000,000,000 DRA | 200,000,000,000 DRA |
| Education and Culture | 75,000,000,000 DRA | 220,000,000,000 DRA | 220,000,000,000 DRA |
| Science and Technology | 50,000,000,000 DRA | 25,000,000,000 DRA | 8,000,000,000 DRA |
| Food and Agriculture | 60,000,000,000 DRA | 20,600,000,000 DRA | 1,600,000,000 DRA |
| Environment and Tourism | 50,000,000,000 DRA | 20,900,000,000 DRA | 1,900,000,000 DRA |
| Trade and Industry | 60,000,000,000 DRA | 25,640,000,000 DRA | 1,640,000,000 DRA |
| Total | 565,000,000,000 DRA | 968,282,700,000 DRA | 604,632,700,000 DRA |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:46:35, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We would rather increase defence spending than reduce it, but for the sake of coalition unity, and for the sake of achieving the public expenditure cuts our economy so desperately needs, we will lend our support to this budget. Taoiseach Aled Pritchard MP |
| Date | 05:43:31, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Agrarian League | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, It's taken the Taoiseach about ten seconds to flip from this position: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=396406 to the current one of reckless cuts. The assault on farmers will not be taken lightly and we promise flip flopping and the right Dishonourable Pritchard war. It's naive to think that while security is not entirely restored, Pritchard and co are trying to get another military coup by weakening the security sector much as another insane government did a few years ago.. Alberto Trujillo DAL Chairman |
| Date | 06:47:56, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Provisional Government of Dranland | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | Order! The Hon. gentleman will address other Hon. members by their correct titles and will not address them by their names. Whether or not Hon. members support the government's policies, the Taoiseach is to be addressed with the correct title of either the Rt. Hon. or the Taoiseach. Gwilym Owens MP Speaker of Parliament |
| Date | 09:18:22, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Unity | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The government, lacking any kind of democratic mandate, is now launching an even more comprehensive attack on public services than the pre-coup one. There will be innumeral hospital closures and people thrown off basic social security with this budget. The Dranish economy will equally suffer with the proposed destruction of science funding and halving of infrastructure investment. Only the GNP believes that you can have prosperity without skills and functioning infrastructure. Robert Mead Unity Party leader |
| Date | 10:49:41, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Agrarian League | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | OOC: I don't think it's very sensible or realistic to cut the environment budget for example by 95% or so while the laws in place mandate fairly strict regulation. How would you justify that? Or cutting the agriculture budget by a similar amount while the laws mandate subsidies too? Realism is an important part of keeping the game going you know. I think cutting any department by more than 20% at a time is unrealistic. |
| Date | 17:59:13, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | OOC: There have been problems surrounding budget realism since the game first started. As I think it says on the budget page, the budget/economy/etc. are not "working" yet. I agree we can all make an effort to try to be as realistic as we can, though. Remember governments have some flexibility over how they interpret the existing laws, though. For example, a government could interpret a law to subsidise farmers either generously (ie. billions and billions of subsidies) or more parsimoniously. On another matter, I dunno about others, but personally I'd rather remove the restriction on banning parliamentarians from addressing each other by their real name. It makes the Bill debates unnecessarily awkward. |
| Date | 18:05:44, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I can assure the Unity Party leader that health provision for the poor will not be harmed as a result of this budget. The cuts in the Health & Social Services Department's funding will mainly be achieved by cutting down on excess welfare payments. I can also assure him that despite the cuts to the infrastructure budget, overall infrastructure spending will be left higher than it was before the election. Dranland is well on the way to building a first-class transport system. I can also point out him, by the way, that education spending is now double what it was before the General Election - and we in the GNP intend to keep it that way. As for the DAL chairman, he knows full well that our earlier budget proposal was put forward against a very different political background to the current one. At the time, we were anxious to make sure the left in Parliament drew their extra spending from the budget surplus rather than through increased taxation. The truth is that we in the governing coalition can be trusted to keep taxes down, but he and his ilk cannot. Taoiseach Aled Pritchard MP |
| Date | 19:32:47, November 18, 2013 CET | From | Dranish Agrarian League | To | Debating the Budget proposal of February 3578 |
| Message | OOC: I agree that the ban should be removed. I also agree that flexibility exists but you know, flexibility is not unlimited and has to take realism into account. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 103 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 118 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 40 |
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| Random quote: "He who will not economize will have to agonize." - Confucius |