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Bill: Gewerkschaftsrechte

Details

Submitted by[?]: Die Sozialdemokraten

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: February 3619

Description[?]:

Trade unions are free associations of hard working men and women of this country. It is outrageous that their right to express themselves should be restricted while some of our government Ministers wax lyrical about defending certain lazy welfare leeches' right to permanent sucking of the nation's welfare funds.

Johan Gehrig MdR
DS Chairman
DS-Kuratha

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:31:40, February 06, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

I refer Herr Gehrig to my collected speeches on corporatism given for the benefit of Frau Lindenkrone. This extreme reform would unbalance the consensual system of industrial relations in favour of the unions, who would have an advantage in playing to sectional interests. I have every reason to believe that that would lead to a total breakdown of industrial relations in the corporatist contexts.

In the short term, workers may benefit, but in the long run, nobody will unless we maintain the balance of interests, which creates in impulse, above all, for all parties to put the public interest first in industrial relations.

sr. ehrw. Liduine Peters MdR (HDV - St. Anton und Budental)
Finanzministerin

Date18:33:07, February 06, 2014 CET
FromFortschrittspartei / 進歩党
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

We do not approve the Article 1 but our commitment for worker's right to strike and fairness in strike ballots is more important, this is why we support this bill.

Julia Lindenkrone MdR
Parteivorsitzender von Die Radikalen

Date18:35:59, February 06, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

How can Frau Lindenkrone still pretend to act in the interests of ordinary people when she supports removing common-sense restrictions that protect vital services such as our health service and our police against the debilitating effects of strikes? Does she want hospitals to close when doctors strike, forcing them to go against their Hippocratic Oaths to do no harm? Ambulance workers' strikes to prevent those who need help from receiving it? Does she want the police to let crime run rampant anywhere in this nation because they strike?

On whose side is Frau Lindenkrone, Herr Präsident?

Franz Weile, MdR (HDV - Kuratha)
Klubobmann des HDV-Reichstagsfraktions

Date18:51:15, February 06, 2014 CET
FromFortschrittspartei / 進歩党
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

Hysterical attacks from Gentleman from Weile proves that he has no good reason to oppose this bill, first of all strike is the last option that workers have, to make doctors,policeman and Ambulance workers strike is a pretty hard thing to do, these people know consequences of their actions and they are careful about that, do you imply that our doctors,policemen and ambulance workers are reckless enough to endanger the country,violate their Hippocratic Oath and prevent those who need help receiving it. You, sir you insulted every policeman, every doctor and every ambulance worker in this country, shame on you, you must apologise them and stop playing politics with their integrity.

I yield with disgust, Herr Präsident.

Julia Lindenkrone MdR
Parteivorsitzender von Die Radikalen

Date18:57:39, February 06, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

Frau Lindenkrone is not answerring my question by seeking to insult me and I demand an apology. Of course I trust our policemen, our ambulance workers and our doctors. I trust the unions, too: still, I do think we should be aware of the institutional interests of the unions themselves that could sometimes prevail over professional standards.

And I draw the line at any dangerous situation. The right to strike is protected by the current law - most of the time coverage can be protected by asking non-members. And actions needn't be strikes. Policemen have, for example, held actions for better working conditions by refusing to fine people for simple traffic violations. I approve of that sort of social responsibility, indeed I applaud it. But no single group should endanger the lifes and livelihood of others for the sake of their sectional interests.

It's irresponsible behaviour and by even opening this discussion, Frau Lindenkrone shows that she believes it will ever be morally acceptable. It will not, and she knows that. Then why is she pushing this bill? May I suggest that in her fanaticism she is not as ideology-blind and pragmatic as she professes and the she should drop this ridiculous pretension to being a centrist?

Franz Weile, MdR (HDV - Kuratha)
Klubobmann des HDV-Reichstagsfraktions

Date19:09:15, February 06, 2014 CET
FromDie Sozialdemokraten
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

The men and women who make up the unions are responsible, non-malignant and do not itch for striking all the time or wrecking the economy. We have nothing against corporatism, its certainly better than the rightwing Liberals would prefer, but unions should have full power to manage their own affairs just like most corporations. However our interests here are the welfare of the workers, we have nothing against enterprises but we want to go to the negotiation table with a full quiver of powers to ensure balance in negotiations.

Johan Gehrig MdR
DS Chairman
DS-Kuratha

Date19:20:56, February 06, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Gewerkschaftsrechte
MessageHerr Präsident,

I wonder what powers Herr Gehrig feels companies have that should be compensated by an absolute right to threaten or launch a crippling strike. Since protection against unfair dismissal denies employers (quite rightly) the possibility to cripple workers in the same way, what can an employer do against the threat of a strike? Nothing but give the unions their way. That unbalances the entire system of industrial relations.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The imbalance Herr Gehrig sees in favour of large corporations is entirely fictious. And because it is, all this legislation would do would be to fundamentally imbalance the scales of industrial relations in favour of the unions.

Precisely what Herr Gehrig says reveals that we'd better not pass this bill. He is saying the sole interests of the unions should be the interests of "the" workers. That is precisely what we do not want - we want unions to serve both the workers' interests and the public interest, just like we demand that employers serve the public interest in addition to their own private interest. That's a decent, common-sense request to make and in the end we all benefit from the style of consensual industrial relations that brings about. Unbalance the scale either way and you get positions like the one taken by Herr Gehrig to advance the interests of one group if need be at the expense of all others - that will lead to confrontationalism in industrial relations, in attitude if not in action, and I do not see the benefit of that for anyone, workers or employers.

Franz Weile, MdR (HDV - Kuratha)
Klubobmann des HDV-Reichstagsfraktions

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