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Bill: Staatliche Renten, 3622
Details
Submitted by[?]: Solidarität
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3622
Description[?]:
| Herr Präsident, The state can provide citizens with much better-for-value pensions than private pension schemes which squander billions on share dividends and fat cat salaries & bonuses for corporate bosses. Every Crownlander deserves a decent state pension to enable him or her to live their retirement in comfort and dignity. Max Siegel Mdr Chairman of Solidarity Leader of the Opposition |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: There is a compulsory private pension system.
Current: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:27:59, February 14, 2014 CET | From |  Liberale Volkspartei | To | Debating the Staatliche Renten, 3622 |
| Message | Herr Präsident, we do not want to make the safety of pensions dependent on which regime is currently in power. For example, if Solidarity were in government - God beware! -, and were to implement their policies of wasteful spending, union influence and economic incompetence they have proposed in opposition, then our country would soon face bankruptcy, and the savings of a lifetime would be gone in the time of one tenure. The people deserve stability and choice regarding their personal provisions for their retirement, which should not be subject to political fluctuations. Ariane von Gehrfeld, MdR LVP-Mitrania Vize-Staatsministerin |
| Date | 11:35:54, February 14, 2014 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Staatliche Renten, 3622 |
| Message | Herr Präsident, Herr Siegel shows nothing but contempt for the commitment and public spirit of the private pension funds. What matters is that people have a pension - and the private sector can over better value for money by investing it. die sehr ehrenwerte Janna Goddestreu, MdR (HDV - Phönix Schlossviertel) Staatsministerin (OOC: I've never heard of pension corporations. In my country, all pension funds are sort of cooperative.) |
| Date | 19:51:03, February 14, 2014 CET | From | Solidarität | To | Debating the Staatliche Renten, 3622 |
| Message | OOC: Really? In the UK, pension funds have a reputation for being mercenary. A lot of people have paid into pension funds for years, only to get a really crap pension upon their retirement. |
| Date | 20:15:01, February 14, 2014 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Staatliche Renten, 3622 |
| Message | OOC: I think that might be due to having an Anglo Saxon economy. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 261 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 382 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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