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Bill: Dranish Restoration Act I

Details

Submitted by[?]: Freedom Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 3627

Description[?]:

Free people of Dranland,

For too long we have been chained by the beasts of hatred and division. The fascist state - "Dankuk" - is based on the false idea that different ethnic groups cannot live together in harmony. That we are not individuals destined for success - but cogwheels in different killing machines, machines bound to hate each other. The concept of the fascist state is essentially based on the idea of hating ones neighbour.

For thousands of years, and thousands of years to come - Dranland has stood for the complete opposite of this. Dranland has stood for tolerance, individual liberty, and peace. Dranland has stood as a role-model for the other nations of the world, showing that unity in diversity is possible. We do not hate our neighbours simply because they have a different ancestry than ours. We love and care for each other.

We have received mandate from the peoples of our fair land to recreate Dranland, the nation of diversity, liberty and tolerance. We will restore the institutions and the ways of governing that takes our diversity into account - and looks past ethnicity or religion. We are not Draddwyr, neither Kyo, nor Dranianos or Kazuliar. We are not Sindo, Hosians, Agnostics or Pagans. We are all united as Dranish. We are one people, no matter race or creed, and Dranland is our heritage.

Mace Tirwin,
Taoiseach (PR)

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:16:59, February 23, 2014 CET
FromDrania Cívica 🏴 시민당
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: I still no see legitimization of how suddenly the Draddwyr are in control despite the huge mass of the population having been deported.

I'd go as far to call all of this a violation of game rules. I may go complain...maybe not...I have better things to do and I've wasted enough time in Particracy.

Date01:30:04, February 23, 2014 CET
FromDrania Cívica 🏴 시민당
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: And it's worth emphasizing... it has been over 15 years since the revolution and the relevant laws were made. So it's not like the law still hasn't been implemented fully....

Date01:37:32, February 23, 2014 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Not exclusively the Draddwyr. While the PR have got our share of Draddwyr nationalists (like the CCD), it's a multi-ethnic party. The FM will be Draniano, for example.

I also doubt that all Kyos are ethnic nationalists, quite a large share of the Kyo population have likely voted for a restored multi-ethnic Dranland.

Date01:40:20, February 23, 2014 CET
FromDrania Cívica 🏴 시민당
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: I already know this is going to get nowhere, so I offer no response.

Date04:06:15, February 23, 2014 CET
FromPlaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Yeah, I understand. We need to work this out. I believe in a tripartite or bi monarchy.

The Party believes in that a tripartite or a Hustrian style system who be more effective, since according to the system as it is, I would be the only monarch.

Petran Cadwallader
Chairman of Liberal Nationalist Party

Date04:58:32, February 23, 2014 CET
FromDrania Cívica 🏴 시민당
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: We are not Hulstria. And any real consideration of the history of ethnic tensions on the peninsula will show why, ultimately, a tri-/bi- monarchy is not being realistic and is not sustainable.

Date01:13:21, February 24, 2014 CET
FromPlaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageAfter some discussion, we will support the bill on the condition that all languages are recognized in the titles.

Date01:13:58, February 24, 2014 CET
FromPlaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageAfter some discussion, we will support the bill on the condition that all languages are recognized in the titles.

Date02:16:01, February 24, 2014 CET
FromPlaid Genedlaethol Rhyddfrydol
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: I want to be a minority party, but this happen and im trying to fix it.

Date10:41:17, February 24, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Don't be so sour, Ryouta. At the time the dual monarchy was implemented in Hulstria and Gao-Soto nobody would've thought it would work either. In fact it only worked because of the Septembrist revolution appropriating the institution of the monarchy to itself.

Date13:37:04, February 24, 2014 CET
FromDrania Cívica 🏴 시민당
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Please....save me of this obsession with Septembrism. The ethnic strife of Dranland has been around for many millennia; Hulstria has no comparison. And realistically, it only "works" because this is game and we can "make" it work, even if it really wouldn't (ie, the rather absurd idea of two starkly different ethnic groups, Germans and Japanese, composing a highly stable and peaceful dual monarchy, and without any major nationalism to disrupt either side).

Date13:50:24, February 24, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Hulstria has no comparison? You don't know what you're talking about. We had an apartheid regime of a guy who wanted to turn us into South Africa with the blacks replaced by the Kunihito. Don't you think that qualifies as a history of uneasy coexistence? We've had CS kick up shit on behalf of the Kunihito time and time and time again insisting they were being oppressed by the Hulstrian majority.

You ascribe too large an influence to culture and presume it is immutable. You also underestimate a good solid crisis to bring people together. In the Netherlands, there have been very very separate subcultures (granted, all European and not ethnically based but religion and ideology can be nearly as bad) but the traumatic experience of World War II started a push towards dismantling those structures. The same as I see it happened in H&GS. Hulstrians and Kunihito were equally oppressed, fought the totalitarian regime together and realised the infighting between them caused it (sort of true given the buildup of tensions that sparked the KSP takeover). So (by the efforts of a few ideologues including Thomas Michels and Okatori Kurosawa) they put that into practice.

Also, the limited research I have done into the values of the Japanese suggest to me they fit rather well with Germans, in a way.

Likewise, I think it is patently absurd that the Kyo are still so ethnically distinct after millennia of living as a minority. I could say the same about that as you said about the dual monarchy: you MADE it work that way.

Date15:00:18, February 24, 2014 CET
From 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Except Hulstrians are supposed to be Austrians, not there there is much of a difference.

Date15:03:05, February 24, 2014 CET
FromHosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund
ToDebating the Dranish Restoration Act I
MessageOOC: Yes, of course that's a difference. That's not that big a difference, though.

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