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Bill: Riforma costituzionale
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partito Social-Liberista Istaliano
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3631
Description[?]:
| As seen on the current situation, it is necessary to divide HoS and HoG in order to achieve a cabinet formed by a possible coalition, also if the HoS is not from that coalition. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:20:35, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Partidul Național Liberal | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | Fully supportive. |
| Date | 15:23:44, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | Non ha senso, infatti è il popolo ad eleggere il Presidente della Repubblica. Abbiamo passato tanto tempo con governi fantoccio, senza maggioranza stabile e certa...ora vogliamo tornare indietro? It makes no sense, in fact it is the people to elect the President of the Republic. We spent so much time with puppet governments, without majority stable and reliable ... now we want to go back? |
| Date | 15:32:06, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Partidul Național Liberal | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | The president must represent all citizens. Enacting the policies of a party is nothing close to representing all citizens. |
| Date | 15:41:02, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | But if it is voted on only one side of the citizens (even if it is the majority) can not represent the others. So this means that this game invites us to have a presidential system. |
| Date | 15:52:29, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Partidul Național Liberal | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | He can, if he doesn't have executive attributions and acts as a mediator between the three powers instead. The semi-presidential system is by far the most appropriate. |
| Date | 17:07:07, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | We need to create a mechanism that form coalitions. Because you don't like my proposal, propose another one. |
| Date | 17:39:47, March 03, 2014 CET | From | Partidul Național Liberal | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | The one I'm voting in favour of right now. |
| Date | 22:03:43, March 03, 2014 CET | From |  Partito Social-Liberista Istaliano | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | Coalitions are formed by endorsments. |
| Date | 11:35:06, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | Yes but if we have three different block of endorsements like the past elections? Your solution does not solve the problem. |
| Date | 12:04:26, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Partito Social-Liberista Istaliano | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | From our manifesto Our policies for the creation of cabinet, as HoS (coalitions are parties which had endorsed the same candidate or with at least 65% of same voting records): - if we are the majority coalition: the parties that endorsed our candidate and our coalition parties. The HoG goes to largest party, the Foreing office to the second and the other ministeries are divided in proportion of seats, as specified in the Fronte Popolare Istaliano message board; - if we are not the majority coalition: the HoG to the largest party, the other ministries divided with its coalition parties, after consultations. If there are no coalitions with majority, then we have to negotiate. |
| Date | 12:13:23, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | I ask for a way to have clear coalitions before the election. |
| Date | 13:54:00, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Partito Social-Liberista Istaliano | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | There are affiliations for this. Like the Fronte Popolare. |
| Date | 17:43:38, March 04, 2014 CET | From | Popolari per l'Istalia - U.o.L. | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | ok: allora si tratta solo di renderle manifeste perché tutti i giocatori le sappiano. Si potrebbe pensare di mettere in bacheca i candidati così che tutti li conoscano. |
| Date | 12:18:18, March 05, 2014 CET | From | Partito Social-Liberista Istaliano | To | Debating the Riforma costituzionale |
| Message | No, the choice of presidential candidate should be only on coalition (affiliation) debate. In this way other coalitions will not choice their candidates based on what one side will choice. If candidates are known, the last coalition which makes its choice can try to support the most similar party to other coalitions' one. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 316 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 283 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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