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Bill: Economic Reform, V

Details

Submitted by[?]: Wildrose Alliance

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3658

Description[?]:

It does what it says. Will be direct-to-vote.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:59:40, April 27, 2014 CET
FromLabor Party
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageNo. This bill guts union protections and Labor will vote No on this bill.

Date21:00:46, April 27, 2014 CET
FromWildrose Alliance
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageHow does this bill gut union protections?

Date21:01:51, April 27, 2014 CET
FromWildrose Alliance
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageHow does this bill gut union protections?

Date21:11:41, April 27, 2014 CET
FromLabor Party
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageThis bill destroys the safety net that an honest day's hard work should ALWAYS correlate to an honest day's living wage. Instead you are letting management reduce salaries below a minimum threshold of support for a worker and family. Forcing them to live on government assistance, housing, pharma care.

You then only allow open shops. Gutting unions collective bargaining position, hiring scabs to eventually push us out of our jobs. While you do this in an effort to support a free market. Labor affirms that a free market must also be a fair market, where hard working Alorians have the right to know that there hard work will results in a reasonable wage.

You gut living wage requirements, and then gut labor union and out ability to fight for better wages and benefits.

This is not a free market, this is a corporatism.

Date21:44:14, April 27, 2014 CET
FromWildrose Alliance
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageI tend to disagree. Individuals workers should have the freedom to not partake in a union. If you don't want to pay union dues (indeed many of these go to various political causes) on principle, you should have the right to do so and still not be precluded from work. This is a fundamental protection of workers' rights.

As for a safety net, we are in support. People fall on hard times and need support to help get them back on their feet. Indeed government work and training programs are the best way to proceed. It is much harder to get a job when you are homeless and hungry; these concerns ultimately take precedent. The policies on housing, current ones on childcare, etc. also help facilitate that as currently proposed. We do not want people to fall into a welfare trap however; our goal is to empower people to create their own successes.

Finally, an unnecessarily high minimum wage is at the expense of fewer working hours and/or higher unemployment. Also, ideally, minimum wage is only a "temporary" situation and one hopefully goes through the required training to warrant higher pay. In tandem with our policy on welfare, we feel this is established.

Date01:44:11, April 28, 2014 CET
FromUnited Alorian Party
ToDebating the Economic Reform, V
MessageWe can support Article 2, and on Article 6 we would prefer no positive discrimination allowed at all.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 92

no
    

Total Seats: 89

abstain
  

Total Seats: 44


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