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Bill: Decent pension bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Left Communist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2164
Description[?]:
| For the right to draw a pension from 55 for those who want to. The right for a part-work part-pension option for those who choose it. An immediate 50% increase in the pension as a step towards a living pension for all pensioners. Annual increases to be linked to average earnings. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 65
Current: 65
Proposed: 55
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:53:11, December 30, 2005 CET | From |  Jakanian Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Decent pension bill |
| Message | Opposed, There allready is a compulsary pension system for any one who wants it, LCP again moves to destroy the private industries and put those workers out of work. 65 is a good age, why change it? If all 55 year olds retire and start drawing pention, we would have a crisis. Everyone rich, poor, and middle class will have to pay the tax burden for these people, who in large could very well continue to work... |
| Date | 10:54:05, December 30, 2005 CET | From | Left Communist Party | To | Debating the Decent pension bill |
| Message | " 65 is a good age". many workers dieing at work. Why DSF support 50 years of career? Why Pensioners, having contributed to society all their lives, can't slack for 10 years before the old age. The Conception of DSF over pension is criminal. DSF is not in the reality but in the sky. LCP propose that D. Fremsy go work only one month to look the reality in a factory. |
| Date | 23:12:19, December 30, 2005 CET | From | CMAG | To | Debating the Decent pension bill |
| Message | The CMAG opposes all compulsory measures. Period. |
| Date | 05:31:52, December 31, 2005 CET | From | Communist Party of Jakania | To | Debating the Decent pension bill |
| Message | You called me a freaking Stalinist, Prepare to be denied everything you Totalitarian. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 34 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 198 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 18 |
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| Random quote: "Socialists like to tout their confiscation and redistribution schemes as noble and caring, but we should ask if theft is ever noble or caring." - Robert Hawes |