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Bill: Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Great National Republican Guard
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3686
Description[?]:
| This is a comparison of the economy of Lodamun under GNRG leadership and Lodamun under PPFD leadership. MPs should feel free to demand any specific statistics and they will be presented here. ------- In April 3675: Lodamun's GDP was 334,856,683,695.00 LOD (309,137,793,842.25 KRV), and ranked 2nd and 3rd in the world (in different currencies). Lodamun's GDP per capita was 3,357.28 LOD (3,099.42 KRV), and ranked 3rd and 4th in the world (in different currencies). Lodamun's Consumption was 192,764,037,783.00 LOD (177,958,667,913.70 KRV), and ranked 12th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption per capita was 1,932.66 LOD (1,784.22 KRV), and ranked 13th in the world. -- The Aaron Aldermann administration took power in May 3675: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=423391&nation=19 The Aaron Aldermann administration reformed the income tax scheme and the budget in June 3676: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=423637&nation=19 The Aaron Aldermann administration implemented "Free Market Reform" in December 3676: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=423794&nation=19 -- In April 3677: Lodamun's GDP was 313,275,684,160.00 LOD (289,074,165,067.13 KRV), and ranked 7th in the world. Lodamun's GDP per capita was 3,145.06 LOD (2,902.09 KRV), and ranked 8th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption was 196,459,153,975.00 LOD (181,282,074,468.67 KRV), and ranked 10th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption per capita was 1,972.31 LOD (1,819.94 KRV), and ranked 9th and 10th in the world (in different curencies). -- The government increased spending by 1,000,000,000 LOD in November 3677: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424031&nation=19 -- In April 3678: Lodamun's GDP was 314,152,613,429.00 LOD (290,053,585,986.89 KRV) and ranked 7th in the world. Lodamun's GDP per capita was 3,155.60 LOD (2,913.53 KRV) and ranked 8th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption was 196,351,881,729.00 LOD (181,289,491,082.47 KRV), and ranked 10th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption per capita was 1,972.32 LOD ( 1,821.02 KRV) and ranked 9th and 10th in the world (in different currencies). -- The Benjamin Landau administration took power in December 3678: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424290&nation=19 The Presidium voted to reverse the "Free Market Reforms" in April 3680: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424645&nation=19 The Benjamin Landau administration promised to publish an assessment by April 3681, in April 3680: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424663&nation=19 The Benjamin Landau administration reformed the income tax scheme and the budget in June 3680: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424692&nation=19 The government increased spending by 1,000,000,000 LOD in September 3680: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=424732&nation=19 -- In April 3681: Lodamun's GDP was 334,481,778,060.00 LOD (308,694,138,320.76 KRV), and ranked 2nd in the world. Lodamun's GDP per capita was 3,359.19 LOD (3,100.20 KRV), and ranked 2nd in the world. Lodamun's Consumption was 192,448,864,169.00 LOD (177,611,577,647.14 KRV), and ranked 11th in the world. Lodamun's Consumption per capita 1,932.76 LOD (1,783.75 KRV), and ranked 12th in the world. -- The Benjamin Landau administration is praised: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=57&p=73611#p73611 ------- |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:31:58, June 07, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Colleagues, Mister Minister of Finance, a lot has changed in Lodamun since the new coalition got control. We have to be honest, some of the measures were good ones. In Finance Department, there was the biggest change. We have supported the budget proposal, believing that we needed to go forward and trusting the Minister of Finance. Now we see that there was a negative spiral in our economy. We understand that change can bring some negative effects at first. We would like to ask the Minister of Finance: Is this negative spiral over? Do you predict a positive change in the near future? Do you consider changing taxes and/or budgets? Mark Dewitte Financial Advisor for P&A |
| Date | 14:22:42, June 07, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I don't see which measures were good ones. -- Kristov DeKarav XII, GNRG Spokesman for Finance |
| Date | 16:41:09, June 07, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Alliance Party | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is a severe disappointment. We call for a full investigation and report to be conducted by the Ministry of Finance into the negative GDP growth for consecutive quarters; officially marking the beginning of a recession for our nation. If it possible we'd like to see the employment numbers as well. ((Not sure if this is possible)). - Amanda DeGualle Finance Critic for the CAP |
| Date | 01:59:30, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The changes are all a result of the new government's economic policies. We saved the statistics from April 3675, when we were last in power, and compared them to April 3677, after the new government's new budget and tax schemes were in effect. We are not in much of a deep recession. A recession would mean our Potential GDP would be significantly higher than our GDP, i.e. our Potential GDP would remain high and the GDP would fall. Instead, both the Potential GDP and GDP have fallen since the new government's handling of the Ministry of Finance. We appreciate more questions being posed for me to search for more statistics, and we would like the government's intentions stated. We want to know what the government thinks it has accomplished. We have only seen failure, so far. -- Kristov DeKarav XII, GNRG Spokesman for Finance |
| Date | 02:13:37, June 08, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Alliance Party | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We fully agree with the Great National Republican Guard in the call for the Minister of Finance, and for the current administration, to account for this staggering GDP retraction. As a side note, the Conservative Alliance will consider two or more consecutive quarters of GDP retraction as a recession, and continued retraction a depression in line with our understanding of economics. - Amanda DeGualle Finance Critic for the CAP |
| Date | 23:32:15, June 09, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The PPFD-FP government still hasn't told us what they had hoped to accomplish. The PPFD has remained mostly silent, and seems to want to avoid assessment of their performance and decisions. Is Finance Minister Steve Hole satisfied with what has been done? Is he dissatisfied with what has been done? The people need to know. We want 3 simple questions answered objectively, i.e. in terms of numbers instead of ideological blabber: 1) What target did the government intend to meet? 2) Was the government's target met? 3) What are the benefits of meeting the target? 4) Have the benefits, of meeting the target, outweighed the costs? -- Reuben Landau, Former Finance Minister, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
| Date | 15:49:49, June 10, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Alliance Party | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Considering under the new coalition, we believe it is best for there to be clear transparency moving forward on economic matters. What exactly is the GNRG's and the new coalition's economic target goal, and how do you propose on meeting it. Specifically we are looking to the new Finance Minister Kristov DeKarav XII, to respond. That said, we call on the former Finance Minister from the PPFD to also answer the questions posed. - Rick Hobbs Leader of the Conservative Alliance |
| Date | 16:28:31, June 10, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our goal is to revert the changes of the last coalition. Specifically, in numbers, we want to have high government spending in key areas, like Education, Health, etc. We still want the PPFD to tell us the beenfits of their reforms to the economy, because we still haven't seen any. -- Kristov DeKarav XII, Finance Minister |
| Date | 02:06:51, June 15, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Economy Comparison (3675, 3677, 3678, 3681) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The figures have been updated to include information from April 3681. -- Benjamin Landau, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun ------- OOC: The comment that I made, at 23:32:15, June 09, 2014 CET, should have said "Benjamin Landau" instead of "Reuben Landau" - sorry. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 311 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 288 |
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