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Bill: Naval Escort and Support Resolution
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3686
Description[?]:
| In order to protect our civilian transportation ships, and mostly crucial transports, we suggest to use a part of our Defence budget to build and maintain a flottila to protect and escort these ships. We have found 3 second hand corvettes, which would cost us 2 billion dollars to acquire and get ready to be used. We ask the Presidium to use 2 billion LOD of de Defence budget to acquire these vessels. Magriete Gevare Defence Specialist for P&A |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:48:34, June 15, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we should think about a strategic and easy accessible port for these ships. Louis Urbain Minister of Infrastructure and Transport |
| Date | 22:37:08, June 15, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I think the Presidium's approval is necessary to get permission for the military to protect and escort civilian ships, but I believe the Military High Command should be responsible for the finer details of it. -- Nikolai Mihaylov, GNRG Spokesman on Defence |
| Date | 08:12:59, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, the Military High Command should be consulted, but we believe the Presidium should give its approval for building or buying ships. We do also believe that the core crew of these ships should be fulltime sailors, so there would be an amendement to the current law on military needed. Maybe there are other solutions but we don't see any at this moment. Dimitri Dewitte Incumbent Minister of Defence |
| Date | 14:17:07, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Reserves don't just sit in their houses all year-round. They have to do service, but it is less often than active troops. Naval reserves could handle this, or we could have the paramilitaries being the ones in control of the escort ships. The Presidium can give approval for the idea, and the Presidium has already approved the budget. The number of ships to build or buy, along with other finer details, is something the Military High Command should vote on once the Presidium approves the general idea. -- Nikolai Mihaylov, GNRG Spokesman on Defence |
| Date | 14:21:02, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, indeed, as GNRG states, there are some options. We believe the Presidium should handle the question about who should man the ships and who should do it. We could go for the reserves but then we have to think about continuancy of service. Anyone else has some proposals? Dimitri Dewitte Incumbent Minister of Defence |
| Date | 14:25:55, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We could just send one set of reserves each month, and they wouldn't have to do service again until the following year. -- Nikolai Mihaylov, GNRG Spokesman on Defence |
| Date | 14:36:14, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we agree, but don't forget that personnel on board has to be trained in firing, damage control, fire fighting, navigation and so on. Dimitri Dewitte Incumbent Minister of Defence |
| Date | 14:37:58, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Reserves aren't random people that lay back waiting for an invasion. Reserves are well-trained soldiers who aren't on active duty. They still serve time occasionally, as they're required to do. -- Nikolai Mihaylov, GNRG Spokesman on Defence |
| Date | 22:39:12, June 16, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Does the current Minister of Defence feel something for this idea? Or does he think this idea is scrap? |
| Date | 12:26:22, June 22, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Naval Escort and Support Resolution |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we have found three corvettes in occasion, which would cost us about 2 billion dollars to buy and to improve to meet our standards. Dimitri Dewitte P&A chairman |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 311 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 288 |
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