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Bill: Police search on Mafia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dark-Light Green Communist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3709
Description[?]:
| Senor president We are very worried about the presence of the mafia in our country, we could agree to all the bill the PN presented, bu we agreed to one of them. and we present it here as a separate piece of legislation. Hermaphrodite Zio Solares, Leader of the Dark-Light Communist Party |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Police searches.
Old value:: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or in cases of imminent danger.
Current: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or have reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime was committed.
Proposed: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or have reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime was committed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:22:59, August 08, 2014 CET | From | Partido Nacional | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | Senor Presidente, We strongly support this bill, which is absolutely necessary if we are to take the fight to organised crime. Victorino Santillian Delegate Speaker Partido Nacional |
| Date | 01:51:42, August 08, 2014 CET | From | Anarcho-Capitalist Party of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | We do not support. |
| Date | 02:17:00, August 08, 2014 CET | From | Progressive Workers of Gaduridos | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | The PWG strongly opposes this bill. |
| Date | 02:44:03, August 08, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | the only question will remain the USA' |
| Date | 03:29:26, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | Senor President, last night, a crime has happened, the police had very heavy reason to believe a man named Juan Minnes was rapping his own sisters and keeping them in the basement as slave, he was appearing as man living single, but was found in stories, buying lingeries for women, and many of it, lingeries that could fit him because he was too big, the question for who he was buying these clothes was evident. So the police went to the judge, hoverer, the judge told them : I don't think you have any evidence, nor any imminent danger to these so-called sister, I am even sure they exist The end, Senor President, is that Juan Minnes had fleed the country in the middle of the night, and when the police investigate his empty house, they found the bodies of his three dead sisters, further analyse brought proof that what the police believed was truth, that guy was raping his sister, there was even trace of brutal forced abortion Senor president, if the police has reasonnable ground to believe a crime is being committed, we believe they should we able to intervene, if ever it is flase, we can give compensation to those who had to go over an abusive search. but this bill is needed. thanks for listening to the little story Hermaphrodite Zio Solares, Leader of the Dark-Light Communist Party |
| Date | 13:29:10, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Sindicato Obrero Libre | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | OOC: Oy, I don't think we should be into this story/anecdote telling. Otherwise we can RP anything we want. I believe that polices and judges, who are part of the public organ, should probably be only RPed by their respective ministers party. IC: Sr. Presidente, While an interesting story, we cannot go and make decisions on unproven anecdote that happened last night. Think about this proposal for a bit: the police can enter anyone's home on a suspicion of a crime. Petty feuds with police can turn into arbitrary arrests. We an have police officers drunk on power instigating the populace, while the populace can't do anything without risking being thought as of suspicious, or being charged with disrespecting an officer. This is a very dangerous path to go with our society. This is simply more paranoid reaction instigated by the PN and their fabled mafia. The supposed crimes that happen would have been simply angry PN voters rallying against the PN. We all now how crazy militaristic PN supporters are, so they might have killed the dog. It is ridiculous. USA is all about fighting crime, including organised crime, but we would like a Gaduridos where rights still exist. Danki, Calvin Mason Delegate Speaker Union Socialism Alliance |
| Date | 15:22:03, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | not suspicion of a crime, on reasonnable grounds that is why we propose a comensation of 100 000 GAD if ever we make a mistake, paid directly from the police, we believe that can limit the power of the police to bypass the law and to set false arrestation, Hermaphrodite Zio Solares, Leader of the Dark-Light Communist Party |
| Date | 16:53:07, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | I have to vote no on my own bill because of criticism in my own party, my office is invaded by my own supporter Hermaphrodite Zio Solares, Leader of the Dark-Light Communist Party "she leaves quietly after voting no to her bill. a very bad day in work" |
| Date | 19:51:13, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Partido Nacional | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | OOC: For what it is worth, I enjoy DarkyLighty's little stories, and don't think occasionally RP'ing things like this should usually be too big an issue - they do, after all, add a little bit of excitement! Obviously, though, any major RP should be discussed with other players first. |
| Date | 19:52:57, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Partido Nacional | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | Senor Presidente, If the Communists ever gain control of Gaduridos, one would have to fear that the chaos within their party would end up being imposed on the nation as a whole... Victorino Santillian Delegate Speaker Partido Nacional |
| Date | 19:56:52, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | Senor President, Our party always had internal fights, like all parties have internal fights, but unlike us, where the fight is public and the challenges to the leader are frequent,. we prefer to have public and allow all member to speak, then to have dirty coup from under the table, no one is able to impose his will in our party and we like it like that, I had a very bad work, i can't stand Marnady and his effort end the local government election and even nation government elections, if he could. Hermaphrodite Zio Solares, Leader of the Dark-Light Communist Party |
| Date | 19:57:33, August 10, 2014 CET | From | Dark-Light Green Communist Party | To | Debating the Police search on Mafia |
| Message | OCC : this is not major, this only affect the DLCP and this only give some context on the actual dispute, |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 40 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 142 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 17 |
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