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Bill: Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3724
Description[?]:
To calm the public opinion, we propose to create a service which controls the adoption of a Hosian pet by foreigners. The adopted animals would be exported safely on expense of the person adopting. The price is set at 5000LOD per specimen. Maria Murphy-Spaak Representative for the Presidium for LNC |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:46:22, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We believe that this is a good idea to address the problem of Hosians overcrowding our animal shelters. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 18:50:38, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Hosians should be accepted as full citizens of this country, not denigrated as "animals" and deported overseas. This Bill is a disgrace. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 19:17:40, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We don't have to send Hosians over the seas. Baltusia shares a land border with us. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 19:38:27, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I must say that this bill has attracted a positive response from foreign governments. Deltaria and Vanuku are considering the importation of Hosians: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5853&p=76161#p76118 -- Nicholas Yenven, GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs |
Date | 19:58:05, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It is a national disgrace that after countries are having to accept refugees from us because we are unwilling to treat our own citizens with the dignity they deserve. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 20:00:16, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Our citizens are treated well. It is Hosians who aren't treated well. Hosians are not our citizens. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 22:21:38, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Trzykrnadrkjogadsrlji Bltmojad | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Honourable members of the parliament of Lodamun, My apologies for disturbing your utmost important session but I am here to speak on behalf of the Tripartite Alliance. Our organization greatly cares for the survival of animals of all species, including the rare specimen of the Lodamunese Hosian which we fear will go extinct with Lodamun's current policies. Therefore our organization is willing to adopt or import as many Lodamunese Hosians as possible. A price can be discussed, we have plenty of funds available for this endeavor. Kris Hendriksen Delegate of the Tripartite Alliance |
Date | 23:02:21, September 05, 2014 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | The Honorable Members of the Presidium, This bill is an act of pristine intelligence in the eyes of Indrala, for it too once undertook such an action by exporting its Daenists to Keymon where they live in a Daenist Collective led by the Daenist Patriarch. As you all know, they caused massive problems for Indrala with their radical and warmongering nature despite their religion of peace. From then on, Indrala has not suffered Daenist insurrections or social instability. Lodamun will gain immensely from this bill, should it be passed. We commend Lodamun and wish it the utmost success for improving its stability. Indralan Ambassador to Lodamun |
Date | 23:45:13, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I would personally like to thank both foreign delegates for speaking. -- Nicholas Yenven, GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs |
Date | 23:53:27, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I hope we will receive assurances that Hosians will not be "sold" into slavery as a consequence of this Bill. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 00:03:18, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Rietveld can hope all he wants. We're not responsible for the Hosians once they are sold. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 00:10:38, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, If this Bill really is going to be passed regardless of our pleas to the contrary, then I request it is amended to forbid the sale of Hosians to nations which practice slavery. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 00:15:51, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, My party opposes that request. Hosians should not move to countries to be burdens on their new owners. This lowers their market value. Like felines in several countries, Hosians should seek employment. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 00:41:55, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Trzykrnadrkjogadsrlji Bltmojad | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Honourable members of the parliament of Lodamun, The gentlemen of the CMA must not fear, if our alliance is allowed to adopt Hosians we will assure adequate accommodation for them and plenty of entertainment. They are after all a species of animals, we must care for them. Kris Hendriksen Delegate of the Tripartite Alliance |
Date | 02:10:29, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Libertariánus Párt | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | We will allow 10,000 Hosians entry into our nation. |
Date | 07:35:42, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, All those who want to adopt can just send their means of transportation to one of our asylums. The transportation costs would be completely on them. Could we agree to just give the animals away, or to sell them for a symbolic price? Paul Murphy-Spaak LNC chairman |
Date | 07:45:36, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We are thinking that we should sell each Hosian for 5000 LOD. -- Kevin Landau, GNRG Spokesman on Finance |
Date | 07:55:33, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, you think a Hosian is worth that much? We should keep the price low to get rid of as many Hosians as possible. Paul Murphy-Spaak LNC chairman |
Date | 08:34:06, September 06, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The international community will buy them at whatever price. They are not worth that much to us, but they're worth that much to the international community. We must use the money to repair the damage caused by Hosians, and to compensate the animal shelters for the recent increases in workload. -- Kevin Landau, GNRG Spokesman on Finance |
Date | 05:03:11, September 07, 2014 CET | From | NWOIAUCFCCNUCDMFSatanilicRepublicanParty | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Greetings Lodamun, The Unholy Davostag Empire has heard of your problem with your undesirables and we would like to offer some assistance... The Unholy Empire needs test subjects to test our new experimental weapons. Specifically chemical and biological weapons. These weapons aren't going to test themselves. We need live animals to study the effectiveness of the weapons. We could also use these animals to test our new and constantly improving execution methods. To make sure maximum pain and suffering is achieved every time. We could sell you such devices for a discounted price. We also need live practice targets to train the new military recruits and to test new guns on these animals. Come to think of it. We could send our new military recruits to Lodamun for real training on the field, with backup from our professional elite headhunting bounty hunters for the more challenging animals. We also need these animals to feed our people. Food shortages are normal from where we're from due to the frigid icy cold climate, but the recent terrorist insurgency has made our food problems even worse. These animals would help supplement our food needs. We're looking for a large amount of these test subject animals. So can you give us a bulk discount? If we can make this deal happen. Your problem with your undesirables will disappear quicker then a fat zard taking a sh*t. We can send over 20 large garbage ships to pick up the product. Whenever your ready. Also we noticed alot of nations are refusing to do any business with Lodamun, but we in Davostag see this as a opportunity to strengthen our relations between our two nations. Our two powerful currencies working together could have a powerful impact on the world's economy. So, what do you say? Rev. Evilterror the Horrific SRP Minister of Pain & Suffering Unholy Davostag Empire |
Date | 05:34:30, September 07, 2014 CET | From | Kirlawa Liberal Party | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Kirlawa is willing to accept Hosians as well, We find it a disgrace that people are classifying Hosians as "Pets" once they arrive in Kirlawa they will be re-classified to the state that they really are and what they really deserve to be people, not animals. Kelly McCloud Kirlawan Ambassador to Lodamun |
Date | 05:53:51, September 07, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Davostag deal sounds favourable. Apart from money, our military would benefit. We hope the government looks into this option. The Kirlawans should know that we don't care what happens to the Hosians once they leave Lodamun. We don't need to hear that they will be re-classified in Kirlawa. We just need to hear that we're getting 5000 LOD per Hosian. -- Nicholas Yenven, GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs |
Date | 08:21:51, September 07, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, from now on we accept every bid. Maria Murphy-Spaak |
Date | 12:19:58, September 07, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker. We are outraged that the GNRG would consider doing "Deals with Satan". We ask the defence minister to order our military to fire upon these ships if they enter our seas. Phillipa Corazona LDP Leader and National Spokesperson |
Date | 18:02:59, September 07, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mrs. Corazona, you judge GNRG and yet you don't oppose to this bill. Hosians will be sent out of the country to be adopted. What happens with them next isn't our problem anymore. Alexander Desmedt LNC specialist on Health and Social Services |
Date | 00:25:54, September 08, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The words spoken by the Davostag representative demonstrate just how low Lodamun has sunk in the human rights league. If we carry on down this road, it will not be long before conditions are in Lodamun are as bad as those in Satanailic Davostag. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 05:46:00, September 08, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, may I remind Mr. Rietveld that there has not been any violation of human rights. Paul Murphy-Spaak LNC chairman |
Date | 18:43:19, September 08, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, There has indeed been a gross violation of human rights in Lodamun and Hosians are citizens - whether Mr. Murphy-Spaak chooses to recognise that fact or not. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 23:49:43, September 08, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Why does Rietveld keep insisting that Hosians are humans and/or citizens? They are not. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 23:54:46, September 08, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Gordon Fertig has yet to explain the basis on which he refuses to recognise Hosians as humans. What makes them any less human than anyone else? Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 06:19:57, September 09, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Presidium declared them as animals. They are animals. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 12:57:30, September 09, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, If the Presidium declared Terra to be a flat disc balanced upon the backs of three giant elephants, standing on a giant turtle, would the Honourable Gentleman believe that to be the case? Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Date | 14:34:16, September 09, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Hosian Adoptive Service Resolution |
Message | Mr. Speaker, If the Presidium did made such a declaration, Terra better turn itself into that. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
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Total Seats: 461 | ||||
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