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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of March 3724

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Libermuns Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 3724

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

The SLP has been accused of seizing government control. We have full control of cabinet, but only 27% of the vote.

We are proposing a cabinet where the SLP has 31% of the positions available. If this is not considered acceptable, then we will continue sitting in power, as the other 73% of the vote obviously does not care as much about the SLP's control as we have been led to believe.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:46:06, September 07, 2014 CET
FromConservative Monarchist Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

We have given this proposal careful thought. Whilst we are hopeful that the SLP and the LDP have some good intentions in wanting to distance themselves from the GNRG, we cannot forget the recent history. Over the last year or two, the SLP's President Argall has called for Hosians to be executed, and the LDP has voted to pass the notorious "Street Cleaning" Bill authorising the police and army to shoot Hosians in the street. It would therefore be difficult for us to support the minority government proposed here. However, if the SLP and LDP would provide assurances to us about bringing about an improvement in the status of Hosians in Lodamun, then we would consider changing our mind.

Anton Rietveld
Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance

Date01:46:30, September 07, 2014 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

The parties in this proposal together have less than 38% of the seats in the Presidum. It wouldn't be wise to elect yet another minority government.

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Gordon Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG

Date01:52:36, September 07, 2014 CET
FromPeople of Freedom (P.F)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker.

We are concerned about the monarchist agenda. And I would like to remind everyone that the LDP has changed leadership. Zach Valentinn has gone onto pursuing business career. We remind the CMA to read our party description and this is basically what we stand for.

Phillipa Corazona
LDP Leader and National Spokesperson
LDP Leader and National Spokesperson

Date02:00:50, September 07, 2014 CET
FromConservative Monarchist Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

Having received private reassurances from the SLP and the LDP, we have decided to support the government proposed here. We do so in the hope and in the belief that it will take urgent action to liberalise Lodamun's oppressive laws and improve the status of Hosians.

Anton Rietveld
Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance

Date02:01:59, September 07, 2014 CET
FromPeople of Freedom (P.F)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr Speaker.

I know its bad to say "I think" as a leader. But i hope this government proposed will get Lodamun out of this mess. Diplomatically and financially etc etc.

Phillipa Corazona
LDP Leader and National Spokesperson

Date02:06:56, September 07, 2014 CET
FromPeople of Freedom (P.F)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker.

We hope negotiations with all parties 2ill come to a peaceful meaningful understanding and for the sake of democracy. Let propaganda not reign and let the people hear the truth.

Phillipa Corazona
LDP Leader and National Spokesperson

Date02:12:41, September 07, 2014 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

This government will not get Lodamun out of the mess without weakening the state and giving in to Hosian interests. The GNRG had offered to take charge of the government so that we could take responsibility for all the harsh policies, and so that the international backlash would be directed to us, not the entire nation. We know how to handle criticism from the international community, and the SLP clearly doesn't. It is liberalisation that led to the diplomatic mess, and it is justice reform that led to our financial messes. Everything was fine until the unnecessary liberalisation. The SLP shouldn't continue to flip-flop around, and the LDP shouldn't look to bend over to the international community.

Why is it that this mess is only recent, at the same time as our liberalisation? Why do we think that liberalisation will help to clean up the mess? What we need is a strong President who takes responsibility for everything, and a firm government that doesn't back down after every minor comment made in the international scene. We should have the international community begging us to do what they want us to do, not dictating what we do.

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Nicholas Yenven,
GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs

Date02:18:28, September 07, 2014 CET
FromConservative Monarchist Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Honourable Gentleman from the GNRG is living in a world of his own if he seriously imagines our nation can reverse the tide of international condemnation by being more bullish and extremist than it is already. We will not be able to solve our domestic or diplomatic problems until we halt the persecution of Lodamese Hosians in their own country

Anton Rietveld
Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance

Date02:27:19, September 07, 2014 CET
FromPeople of Freedom (P.F)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker.

This propaganda will not stand. We as the LDP do not bend for any international persons. We humbly listen to them. Hear what thwy have to say and act accordingly. We may just get amazing trade deals out of this enriching the populace instead of international sanctions against us and then war!

Phillipa Corazona
LDP Leader and National Spokesperson

Date08:20:11, September 07, 2014 CET
FromGrand Nationalist Fraction
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 3724
MessageMr. Speaker,

we're reliving the past. Such a government formed the basis of the fall of our nation.

Paul Murphy-Spaak
LNC chairman

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 281

no
   

Total Seats: 318

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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