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Bill: Pesticide Watch

Details

Submitted by[?]: Alorian Front Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 3728

Description[?]:

This bill will create a more consumer friendly food market.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:06:03, September 15, 2014 CET
FromRoyal Conservative Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageI actually think this makes the market worse for consumers. The proposed change means chemicals are no longer approved for use and regulated but farmers can use whatever they want as long as the put it on the label. I don't think that that is a good idea, it's not good for food safety and it certainly does not make the market more friendly given what could now be used on food crops.

Date01:50:44, September 16, 2014 CET
FromAlorian Front Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageIt is not a good idea for our farmers to list the chemicals to use on the crops?.That is probably the shittiest thing I have ever heard in this parliament.We require our companies to list the ingredients used on our foods,which is virtually the same thing as listing the chemicals used on our crops.The people deserve to know.

Date02:20:19, September 16, 2014 CET
FromRoyal Conservative Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageIt's not a good idea to get rid of regulation and government approval of chemicals and replace it with a law saying "use whatever the fuck you like, just put it on the label". That really is the shittiest thing I have heard in this parliament.

What the people deserve is not to get fucked over by an attempt to allow farmers free rain to use any chemicals they want as long as they use small print on the packet. Names of chemicals no ordinary person knows, the people have no idea what chemicals are what.

Tell me do you know what TR3799 metaldehyde is, what it does, its effects and whether it's a good or bad chemical? You don't have a clue do you. That and many other hundreds of chemicals is why this bill is a steaming turd.

Date02:37:02, September 16, 2014 CET
FromAlorian Front Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageThe greatest deterrent in preventing the use of harmful chemicals in crops are the people.I am positive if consumers saw that TR3799 metaldehyde is listed in the making of their banana then they will not buy that banana.It is government waste to fund the obvious.Once consumers know the chemicals being used in their crops,that will either make or break the farmer.I am trusting the people with this regulation.

Date03:04:35, September 16, 2014 CET
FromRoyal Conservative Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageJust as I thought, No idea. Metaldehyde is the most common form of slug pesticide. Perfectly safe to use in agriculture and also not something that would ever be used around Bananas. Banana plants don't suffer from slug problems.

So clearly it's not obvious as you had no idea what metaldehyde was. You assumed it must be bad if used in agriculture and had no idea what it was used to prevent. This perfectly illustrates why it's a terrible idea. When the people proposing the bill can't recognise which chemicals used in agriculture are used for what how is the public supposed to work out what to do? This is why it needs to be regulated as it is now.

Date03:21:55, September 16, 2014 CET
FromAlorian Front Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageThe people have a right to know what is used in their food.Your example is flawed.For example peanuts may be a recognized as a safe and simple ingredient used in a product such as a cake.Now lets say someone who has a peanut allergy ate that cake without knowing their were peanuts used to make it.Who fault is that?.People deserve the right to know what is in their food,regardless if it is assumed to be safe of not.I am sure their are thousands of people with TR3799 metaldehyde allergies.

Date12:11:55, September 16, 2014 CET
FromRoyal Conservative Party
ToDebating the Pesticide Watch
MessageThey can, they visit the website of the government regulator and see the lists of what is allowed and what is not along with any other information if they are bothered.

Still just showing how much of a bad idea this was. When food arrives in the the shop there is 0 metaldehyde in it. And there is no such thing as an allergy to it. Nor any pesticide or herbicide that would be approved for use by the government watchdog and it's guidelines.


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Total Seats: 184

no
    

Total Seats: 276

abstain
 

Total Seats: 40


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