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Bill: Call for early elections, February 3729
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alorian Front Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.
Voting deadline: October 3729
Description[?]:
| We, the Alorian Front Party, call for early elections as soon as we can reach a consensus. |
Proposals
Article 1
Arrange early elections as soon as this bill passes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:49:52, September 16, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Centrist Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Why? |
| Date | 22:19:41, September 16, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Yeah, just why? |
| Date | 22:25:16, September 16, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Sounds like somebody is a sore loser. |
| Date | 00:44:52, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Sore loser?.The electorate if uneven.If you analyze the election results yoi will se that our one of us only won 1 state ,performed horribly in all the others but yet got the majority.This makes the electorate unfair amd uneven.While there were other parties that won more states and performed much better yhan our majority party.You can not tuly call this democracy right?. |
| Date | 00:45:35, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | I am positive the older parties agree with me. |
| Date | 01:15:29, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | We had an election. The people voted. We have MPs in parliament. That's democracy. Seats are proportional to votes In our case 5 seats per 1% of the vote. That's democracy the people spoke. What you're saying is because one state voted in a way you don't like you don't believe that's democracy. Which is frankly stupid. All parties have good and bad elections, all parties have states who's ideology favours their party. That's politics. You should take it like a man instead of like a crybaby. OOC: Are you seriously actually saying that a party got 17% of the vote therefore got 17% of the seats and that means the game is broken? |
| Date | 01:28:57, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | You are a violation of democracy.If I was in your position I would support this election.One state should not determine our government.All states should.If you truly believe you performance in this election was up to par then that you,but it wasn't.You won in 1 state,and barely garnered any support in the others.You only got enough seats cause you won 50 percent in gavonshire,no other reason.After this election,which I am positive will happen again,the AFP will fix our voting system. |
| Date | 01:47:17, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Every state determines our government. Each state has equal representation and equally effects all the others. "Violation of Democracy" seriously what are you smoking? Democracy was what brought us this result. I am not the government am I, I would be one of at least 4 parties in the government. Maybe more. That's if I can even be bothered to support a government that decided that the electorate should vote again because they lost their majority. Your government lost 183 seats. Not just to me but to 3 or 4 other parties. Just accept the people want change instead of patronising them. Every party has a stronghold Now all i'm hearing is. "You only got enough seats because people voted for you". No shit, that's what happens when 10 million people vote for you. You get seats and quite a lot of them. Every citizen's vote in this country is equal. Accept you are saying the voters in Gavonshire are not as important and because they vote in a way you don't like they should vote differently. It's funny how you only think there is a problem with the voting system when you lose a third of your seats. It's pathetic. |
| Date | 01:49:17, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | The only time new elections should be held is when a government can't be formed. No attempt at forming a government has yet been made. Other parties in this parliament have expressed good faith at being willing to work with other parties to get a government up and running. You sir are trampling all over that goodwill. |
| Date | 01:50:18, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Again.as I stated before.The electorate is flawed.An early election is needed. |
| Date | 01:51:48, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Whether or not this early election happens,I will ensure that Aloria is truly represented.I will not recognize your party as an official party in Aloria,until you figure out what democracy and fair elections means. |
| Date | 02:08:58, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | How are they not fair? We have proportional representation. Ones % of votes transfers into % of seats. That % is ones vote across the whole country. I got 16.88% of the vote across the whole country and 17% of the seats. The UCP got 14.22% of the vote and 14.60% of the seats etc etc etc. That is fair and democratic. All votes are worth the same, my voters all happen to live in the same place. |
| Date | 02:11:33, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Why do you think their vote is worth less because they live in the same place and voted for the RCP instead of your party. I know you would not have set out this bill if you had achieved greater than 50% of the vote in a state so why the presence of some illogical campaign about "fairness"? When clearly you only see elections as fair when you win. |
| Date | 02:18:33, September 17, 2014 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | We have had elections already! There is no reason for early elections. The people have voted an cast their votes. |
| Date | 02:26:14, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | So your telling me we are going to let one state dictate how the election goes?.Is that the type of representation Aloria represents? |
| Date | 02:40:52, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Royal Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | You can apply that to any sate. Take away the results of any state and the results of the election changes. That's democracy, every vote is equal across the country. The party that wins got the most votes and represents the most people. The candidate for president that wins get's the most votes across the country as every vote is equal. Stop trying to say the votes of the people of Gavonshire are not as important as the votes from other states. |
| Date | 02:51:02, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | Your illegitimate.I don't know why your talking to me. |
| Date | 03:54:23, September 17, 2014 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | AFP there are 9 parties, therefore there will be less seats to each party. It's not a big deal. Treat the other parties with respect as they treat you. |
| Date | 04:12:51, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Alorian Front Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | I will treat each party with respect.As I stated I will work with whomever as long as it is for the people.The AFP is merely a party,whether we recognize someone or not is not reason to shut down the government. |
| Date | 10:45:28, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Social Liberal Party | To | Debating the Call for early elections, February 3729 |
| Message | I vote yes. Just for the thrill of it. :) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 32 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 468 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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