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Bill: Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Monarchist Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3730
Description[?]:
| This rather ancient Treaty no longer serves any purpose, since the regime it refers to is no longer in power in Gaduridos. Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:17:04, September 18, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The treaty has remained signed because the regime may re-emerge. The CMA wants us to withdraw because they want to install a similar despotic monarchy in Lodamun, and they realize that this treaty serves as precedent for Lodamun's anti-monarchy. We must protect our republic, and show it. -- Nicholas Yenven, GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 02:25:02, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Even for the GNRG, this is an absurd position to take. The party in question has not been in power for more than two centuries and closed down well over half a century ago. Why are the GNRG so scared of them? This is bonkers! Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 03:17:01, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Gaduridos still has the treaty signed. That says something. While the party in question hasn't been in power for over 2 centuries, CMA members recently spoke of "the rightful King of Lodamun" being assassinated even after centuries of republican government. An Adamson could claim to be the rightful monarch of Gaduridos and attempt to start a monarchist takeover of the Gaduri government. We want to readily oppose that, like we want to readily oppose a Hosian monarchy in Lodamun. We should really be asking why the CMA is afraid of this treaty, but we already know the answer; the CMA doesn't see this as pleasing to their agenda. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 13:43:59, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It is unbelievable that so many members of the Presidium are so determined not to recognise a foreign regime that does not even exist. This could only happen in Lodamun! Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 15:03:06, September 19, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Where is the CMA patriotism. When they say " this can only happen in Lodamun"? This is an insult to this presidium and the people of lodamun. Because the CMA sits in the Presidium. We ask the CMA withdraw that statement. Phillipa Corazona LRP Leader and National Spokesperson |
| Date | 15:12:41, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The treaty remains signed so that it may be effective in the event that Adamsonite loyalists try to seize power again. We aren't the only ones who signed the treaty, but we agree with Phillipa Corazona and urge the CMA to withdraw their insulting statement. Yes, some things only happen in Lodamun, and we are proud. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 17:09:03, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is easily one of the most ridiculous debates the Presidium has ever held. Once again, there is no reason for Lodamun to be a signatory to a Treaty that denies recognition to a foreign government that does not even exist. Especially when the regime in question has not been in power for over two hundred years, and the party in question no longer exists. Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 17:20:43, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Withdrawal from the Non-Recognition of the Adamsonite Regime |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Sergio Arechavaleta speaks of a regime that "has not been in power for over two hundred years" and a party which "no longer exists" but didn't we think the same of monarchy in Lodamun? We didn't know that there was a King of Lodamun: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=417473 No-one can be certain that descendants of the Adamsons won't try to claim power in Gaduridos again. We see this treaty as necessary, not only regarding foreign affairs and Gaduridos, but it also serves as precedence for our firm republican stance. Our opposition to this regime is consistent with our opposition to monarchy in Lodamun. The CMA fears that this treaty will be a challenge to their local agenda. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 123 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 476 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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