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Bill: Women's Rights Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Radical Alliance

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3733

Description[?]:

Mr Speaker,

We find it urgent to help women attain the same possibilities as men. We therefor propose this bill, which will allow women to receive state-funded abortions during the first trimester.

Lucas Hentze
Party leader, Radical Alliance

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:17:34, September 25, 2014 CET
From Federal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Women's Rights Bill
MessageMadam Speaker, we would like to inquire as to what right afforded to the male gender is equivalent to abortion? Furthermore it is the belief of the Federalist Party that abortion without medical necessity is an affront to the sanctity of Human life and as such cannot support this measure as it stands.

Date17:45:24, September 25, 2014 CET
From Radical Alliance
ToDebating the Women's Rights Bill
MessageMadam Speaker,

Men are not committed to go around for 9 months carrying a baby and putting their lives on pause. Women do. We do not wish to make any physical harm to a human being, but a fetus in the first trimester is not what we would call a human being and we have therefor chosen to put women's wellbeing over fetuses' wellbeing in the first trimester. The fetus has after all not developed any vital organs - or can feel a thing.

Lucas Hentze
Party leader, Radical Alliance

Date18:47:21, September 25, 2014 CET
From Federal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Women's Rights Bill
MessageMadam Speaker,

We believe that the argument of women having to put their lives on hold for a nine months is a poor argument for what the RA proposes to do. Furthermore, regardless of consciousness the fetus is still a unique human being as defined by the scientific community (Unique- containing genetic code that is it's own) and a (Human- containing genetic code that belongs to the Homo Sapien species) and therefore is endowed with all of the rights afforded to every other person with in this country among them being life and liberty. Also under current law physical well-being is already taken into account. In addition if you truly wanted to improve gender equality perhaps you could instead institute a mandatory maternity leave.

Date21:14:53, September 25, 2014 CET
From Radical Alliance
ToDebating the Women's Rights Bill
MessageMadam Speaker,

It isn't just about the 9 months. Women get psychologically connected with a child that has been born and therefor chooses to keep it and not e.g. put it out for adoption. This severely decreases a woman's chances of success career wise. Your argument does however not make sense since you apparently supports the current law, which in fact allows abortion in medical emergencies. In real life you e.g. don't take out the heart of one living person and gives it to another who has a bad heart. But nevertheless; we do not see fetuses as citizens of our country and they do therefor not enjoy the same rights as others. This does however not mean that we are cruel and would allow abortions the day before a fetus is born. The fetus changes through the several trimesters and we find it completely humane to allow abortions in the first trimester.

Lucas Hentze
Party leader, Radical Alliance

Date22:51:17, September 25, 2014 CET
From Federal Heritage Party of Hutori
ToDebating the Women's Rights Bill
MessageMadam Speaker, again the RA is in error on several fronts the firstly education which has been shown to be a determining factor in success is provided by the state regardless of parental status so there are no limiting factors there. Secondly, the state provides funding for parents in low income so again a poor argument as all of the needs for a person to be successful regardless of socioeconomic status are provided for.

As for your argument for ours not making sense is also a poor one as in a medical emergency more often than not if comes down to the child or the mother, the mother generally has the better odds it has nothing to do with one person being worth more than the other just who is more likely to survive. At any rate we would support a mothers right to chose in the aforementioned example.

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