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Bill: Adulthood
Details
Submitted by[?]: Movement for Percyism
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3747
Description[?]:
| We would like to raise the age of adulthood from 15 to 18 This bill shall be in effect from the generation born in 3735. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 15
Current: 18
Proposed: 18
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:42:28, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we see no need in changing the age. Marijke Clerck Expert on Education and Culture for LNC |
| Date | 07:44:32, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Federal Liberal Congress | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We fully support the motion. Francis Jones President |
| Date | 08:02:06, October 22, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, 18 is an arbitrary number. We see no need to support this proposal. Our age brackets are defined by multiples of 5: http://classic.particracy.net/viewregion.php?regionid=103#economics The Nationalist government, in the past, saw 15 and 20 as the only workable numbers. We picked 15 over 20. This bill will effectively take away certain rights from persons who are 15-17 years old. We do not see why this is necessary. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
| Date | 08:06:35, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Social Libermuns Party | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Just out of curiosity, can one revoke adult status? I think a lot of 16 and 17 year old adults will find themselves unhappy to know that their ability to buy smokes has been taken away. Rowan Argall SLP Leader, Head FISH |
| Date | 08:12:14, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The current adult status of 15-17 year olds shall not be provoked. This bill shall gain in to effect for the generation of 3735. Monica Arling Chairwoman CDP |
| Date | 08:14:19, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We would appreciate if that was made clear in the bill. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
| Date | 15:10:15, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is a very sensible reform. Most young people, especially boys, are considerably more mature at 18 than they are at 15. In general terms, 15 is too low. Ignatz Linden Social Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 15:19:04, October 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, At the same time, males are more mature at 20 than they are at 18. 18 is an arbitrary number. Someone isn't fully mature at 18. Biologically, the ideal maturity age is 21 or 22, when the frontal lobe is fully developed. We see no reason that "18" is being proposed, except that it would make us more like a lot of foreign countries. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
| Date | 15:14:14, October 23, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, One hopes Mr. Fertig has nothing against "foreign countries"... Ignatz Linden Social Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 15:21:48, October 23, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Of course that would be a major concern of the CMA, considering that they are foreign-backed. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
| Date | 15:25:27, October 23, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The CMA receives no funding from any private donors, whether from Lodamun or abroad, because we follow the current law on party funding which allows parties to receive funds only from the state. Ignatz Linden Social Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 15:29:31, October 23, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Adulthood |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I will not trust the words of any swine in the CMA. The CMA's leader is a Hosian. The only swine I listen to is Monica Arling. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Opposition Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 293 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 291 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 15 |
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