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Bill: "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!"
Details
Submitted by[?]: Peoples Front of Malivia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2167
Description[?]:
| In case of war, the United Federation of Malivia might have to seize property, to keep Malivia safe! Therefore we should have the same rules in all the provinces, or else we will not be able to protect our country. If one province is lost, we are all lost! This is for the need of our people, and in case of war only! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The policy regarding eminent domain is left to local governments.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:25:38, January 03, 2006 CET | From | Malivia Liberals | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works. #1 thats isn't in time of war, thats like We need a park Okay lets take that Flower Shoppee thats been there making good money for 100 years down! No Locals will decide what is best for their Streets, homes, and other wise they vote their town officals in for what they want also. |
| Date | 03:17:28, January 04, 2006 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | No because lets compare this to some real life senarios. In some countries, especially ones that are/were communist or dictatorships that would seize land from private citizens for certain things. To tell the truth I think its best what we keep it now but personally I don't like the options the game currently has for this and how they are worded. |
| Date | 21:05:09, January 04, 2006 CET | From | Peoples Front of Malivia | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | The PFM agrees that the game is lacking in options, and not only in this case, however we do feel that we might get in serious problems, if we cannot control this matter. Some provinces most likely already have agreed on the proposed matter, and therefore they can seize, but we canīt. Whoīs running this country? Are we not united? |
| Date | 21:09:32, January 04, 2006 CET | From | Malivia Democratic Party | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | The local governments help run this country too. Not to mention we have higher courts that people can still challenge the eminent domain ruling in. |
| Date | 22:13:17, January 06, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Jingoist Party | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | There's a serious issue of precedent here. We cannot allow the government to take private property. Otherwise, our other rights will surely follow. |
| Date | 22:15:20, January 06, 2006 CET | From | Libertarian Jingoist Party | To | Debating the "No, you soldiers cannot stay here! We donīt care if Malivia is in war!" |
| Message | In addition, this is an issue best left to local governments. They are most accountable to the people who are immediately affected by this proposal. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 166 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 285 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 48 |
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