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Bill: Military Act of November 3752
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partido da Pátria Liberta
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3754
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Proposed: Homosexuality is allowed in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:04:39, November 03, 2014 CET | From | Central Democratic Party | To | Debating the Military Act of November 3752 |
| Message | Article 1- Agreed. We have the Right to do that. But.. Article 2- Chemical weaponry and technology should only be researched, and not used in battle. We must show that we now how to win a war by licit means, not by breaking International Human Rights Laws.. Article 3- We must not give only private industries to research and control our military Defence Industry. Our Government must now how to handle that too, and not giving it all to private hands.. Article 4- Agreed, but that have been many parties who voted against when we purposed that. Lets see if it passes now.. |
| Date | 22:29:13, November 03, 2014 CET | From | Partido da Pátria Liberta | To | Debating the Military Act of November 3752 |
| Message | Let's not be too naïve by thinking we can win a war by "licit means", specially if other nations have chemical and nuclear weaponry at their disposal. If we get into a war, the least our enemies will worry about is the human rights or the welfare of our people; but we can and we must! And that's why we've got to have enough power to both respond, repel and avoid an attack to those who this government is for, by and though. As for Article 3, we said it once and we say it again: the government should not engage in this kind of stuff--it's both a waste of time and money for a work which can perfectly be carried out more effectively by the private sector. Finally, Article 4, I don't know why such reluctance in accepting gay people in the military. We're depriving citizens from the right of serving their nation in one of the most admirable ways and that is wrong, whether you condone with homosexuality or not. |
| Date | 16:31:58, November 04, 2014 CET | From | Central Democratic Party | To | Debating the Military Act of November 3752 |
| Message | What we must do is give an example to other nations, and dont use chemical weapons, as it is stupid to say that like 'if nobody cares about Human Rights, we shouldn't either'. As in real life, no one since WW1 is allowed in The world to use chemical weapons, and your party is being inhuman for defending that. Waste of time, control our Defence Weapons Technology? that shows ya know nothing about Economy. We must have control over that. Article 4, yeah, we should permit homosexuality in The military, but DWP and UDT voted against that the last time. hope it passes now.. |
| Date | 04:20:00, November 05, 2014 CET | From | Partido da Pátria Liberta | To | Debating the Military Act of November 3752 |
| Message | We're not being "inhuman", we're protecting the safety of our people; your speech is beautiful in theory but such "example" will mean nothing when a war comes and they use their chemical weapons against us. What we are defending is not abolishment of the human rights because we are totally sympathetic to them; PPL just wants this bill to be approved so that our country can repel any chemical threat or attack by other nation, for the sake of our people. Furthermore, if we know nothing about Economy, you should know how to read and interpret sentences a little better. We said it's a waste of time the government get involved in such research when it can just pay the private sector to do so and the experience has shown they do it WAY better. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 27 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 98 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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