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Bill: Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun
Details
Submitted by[?]: Baltusia Partido Conservador
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3760
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Condamnation of Lodamun.
Article 2
Withdraw from the Diplomatic Treaty between Lodamun and Baltusia.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:11:12, November 14, 2014 CET | From | Baltusia Partido Conservador | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This re-ratification is in resposne to the poor treatment of Hosians in Lodamun and the poor treatment of the people in general. Lodamun is a corput police state and they must agian be condemed. Markus Grain, Foreign Affairs Minister |
| Date | 06:25:46, November 15, 2014 CET | From | Partido Popular radicales | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | We believe that the Condamnation treaty is a bit too extreme and that better diplomacy is needed. The Seleyan Union or CSCO must be called upon the situation. We strongly propose that the government (as Baltusia is the founder of the Seleyan Union) issues a statement about this in the Seleyan Union council and together all member states discuss the course of action We would be sympathetic to the withdrawal of the diplomatic treaty though |
| Date | 15:11:19, November 15, 2014 CET | From | Baltusia Partido Conservador | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We support and are for what the PPR is suggesting. We do think that this condemnation will have no affect on our economy as Lodamese investment and trade with Baltusia has been regulated by our government to make sure we do not become dependant on them. At this point trade is below 5% and investment is 2%, which is a very small portion. Since we now are going to have closer relations with Selucia and our oil fields are running at full capacity, this action against Lodamun will have no economic impact. We do agree that we should see what are Seleyan partners say, but we still want to go ahead with this Act. Pauline Quaspe Governor-General & Deputy Prime Minister |
| Date | 23:38:57, November 15, 2014 CET | From | Evil Pro-Life Communist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | senor President, Malivia would resquest permission to talk, we have an idea to punish Lodamun government without punishing the people, who do not all support the government, |
| Date | 01:12:35, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Baltusia Partido Conservador | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I will grant the EPLCP permission to speak. Pauline Quaspe, Governor-General & Deputy Prime Minister |
| Date | 01:39:08, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Evil Pro-Life Communist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Thank You Mss Quaspe. My country is planning to develop a black Market on Lodamun, as well as the mesures described by the treaty. We believe the Hosians should not be punishment for the action of the government, netheir should the common lodamese be punishment as they are not responsable of the action of the government. The idea of a black market supported until the negative descrimination and unfair treatment of hosians would damage Lodamun Budget. we also to present a few law that are being passed in Lodamun right now. http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=421888 Banning all religion http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=421886 Directly recording all DNA, We have proof that unfair treatment of Hosian is the direct of the rise of extremist in the HFL, which is more like a sect then the actual religion, if anything, the hosian liberation front should be stamped out, its influence can be remplaced by the Hosian Peacefull League and we hope Baltusia can give support to the HPL. As you probably know, the existence of the HPL is due to the HFL bombing and killing most of Malivian minister in January... yes the law right now are easier and fairer then they were when the treaty was designed, but this extreme nationalist is not gone, human rights are not granted, we have to fight for them. Natalia Cecil, |
| Date | 14:55:54, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Baltusia Partido Conservador | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I am really interested in what Ms. Cecil is saying, installing a form of Black Market in Lodamun would be very risking but it would help us only punish the government instead of the people. Me and my party is very saddened by the fact that the SLP and the JDP are taking away all religious freedoms in Lodamun it is simply nog fair. This proposal that you speak of will fix that installing a Black Market is the only chance the Lodamese people have at freedom now. I would prefer it not be called the Black Market though, how about the Common Trade Hub? That way it does not sound as wrong and many people can economically prosper while the country as a whole is not. We will also support the HPL as we see that it is a more peaceful way of protesting the current things Lodamun is doing that is very wrong. We will be giving Political backing to the HPL. Pauline Quaspe, Governor-General & Deputy Prime Minister |
| Date | 17:51:20, November 16, 2014 CET | From | Evil Pro-Life Communist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Condamnation of Lodamun |
| Message | Yeah, we can call it common trade, but we all know what is officially, it invite lodamese who disapprouve the regime to not pay their taxes and since lodamun relies on its sale taxes, very much unlike Malivia, who is not rich in all sens of term, We are very happy at the establish of the common trade. and the support for the HPL, We thanks Baltusia for their cooperation and their understanding. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 434 | |
| no | Total Seats: 1 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: "Treaty-locking", or ratifiying treaties that completely or nearly completely forbid any proposals to change laws, is not allowed. Amongst other possible sanctions, Moderation reserves the discretion to delete treaties and/or subject parties to a seat reset if this is necessary in order to reverse a treaty-lock situation. |
| Random quote: "If liberty and equality, as is thought by some are chiefly to be found in democracy, they will be best attained when all persons alike share in the government to the utmost." - Aristotle |