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Bill: Positive Discrimination

Details

Submitted by[?]: Party of Love and Flowers

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3768

Description[?]:

Mr. Speaker

This is an act to get everyone involved.

Victoria Shadowlight

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date14:57:02, December 02, 2014 CET
FromGrand Nationalist Fraction
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMrs. Speaker,

on whom would this positive discrimination have effect?
We believe all citizens are equal.

Marijke Clerck
Minister of Education and Culture

Date15:18:30, December 02, 2014 CET
FromParty of Love and Flowers
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker.

Minorities are not equal to majorities in the strictest sens of the term, yeah, they are equal in the eye of the law, but not on hiring policies, those with a french name get discriminated only because they have a french name. Those with a name that look Hosians get discriminated on that basis, but they are not even hosian, that is just some personnal judgement.

Victoria Shadowlight

Date16:10:23, December 02, 2014 CET
FromNational Socialist Fatherland Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr Speaker,

We support this but it must include all minorities. It cannot be defined as just religious or ethnic minorities.

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Party Leader Frederick Kingsley

Date16:12:31, December 02, 2014 CET
FromParty of Love and Flowers
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker.

the bill include all minorities.

Victoria Shadowlight

Date16:15:35, December 02, 2014 CET
FromNational Socialist Fatherland Party
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr Speaker,

We support it then.

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Party Leader Frederick Kingsley

Date16:59:32, December 02, 2014 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker,

The notion of "race" to divide citizens has become obsolete in Lodamun, unlike other countries. We are one people. Why do we need this? Why does the EPLLCP continuously propose solutions to imaginary problems?

--

Andre Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG,
Minister of Trade & Industry,
Vice President of Lodamun

Date19:37:17, December 02, 2014 CET
FromParty of Love and Flowers
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker,

minorities are not limited to race, they also include male in majority female profession and female in majority male profession.

Victoria Shadowlight

Date19:42:47, December 02, 2014 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker,

A majority of Lodamun already sees all genders as equal. We find it hilarious that Victoria Shadowlight brings up the topic of one gender in a profession supposedly intended for another gender, when the EPLLCP was the party that wanted to limit what roles a female could play in the military. Lodamun is already an egalitarian society. Creating artificial divisions, through things like this bill, is the only thing that will change that.

--

Andre Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG,
Minister of Trade & Industry,
Vice President of Lodamun

Date19:58:33, December 02, 2014 CET
FromParty of Love and Flowers
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker.

People who have name that could hosian or that look like hosian are discriminated against, while the employers as no proof of being in face of an hosian other the name.
We must outlaw discrimination,
We put a bill that said men should do dangerous work, not to exclude women from the military.

Victoria Shadowlight

Date20:03:23, December 02, 2014 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMr. Speaker,

If we had religious ID cards, we would rely on those instead of assumptions. I don't know how someone can "look Hosian" anyway, so this sounds like another thing that is made up by an MP's imagination.

We did not say that the EPLLCP tried to exclude women from the military. We said that "the EPLLCP was the party that wanted to limit what roles a female could play in the military" and our statement is true.

--

Andre Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG,
Minister of Trade & Industry,
Vice President of Lodamun

Date20:46:01, December 02, 2014 CET
FromGrand Nationalist Fraction
ToDebating the Positive Discrimination
MessageMrs. Speaker,

a lot of members of my party have Ikradonian names. Do we get discriminated because of that? Within our party and families, we still use the language of our ancestors. Do we get discriminated for doing so? No, because we are Lodamese citizens.

Marijke Clerck
Minister of Education and Culture

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Voting

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Total Seats: 245

no
    

Total Seats: 354

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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