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Bill: The Independence Party Manifesto
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal National Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3777
Description[?]:
| I would like debate over these issues so we can get them to pass. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Proposed: All abortions are illegal.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Current: Any legal weapon may be concealed when carried.
Proposed: Local governments may set and enforce concealed carry laws.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Food safety policy.
Old value:: The government introduces, and actively enforces, food standards provisions.
Current: The government introduces, and actively enforces, food standards provisions.
Proposed: Local governments determine food safety standards.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Proposed: The use of land mines is allowed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: No religions are taxed.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's stance on whaling.
Old value:: Whaling is illegal.
Current: Whaling is illegal.
Proposed: Commercial whaling is legal, but the government establishes whaling quotas.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:31:59, December 21, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The LIP claims to be an "Independence Party" yet it wants the country to abide by foreign values. We will not have this nonsense. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 04:13:45, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, MP Fertig has been on the case of the Independence Party, and yet we won more seats then his party and people support our party and what foreign values do we support? Ethan Reynolds Party Leader. |
| Date | 05:08:53, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The GNRG is in a coalition that won a majority of seats. Our stances are similar to other parties, which causes the seats to be shared between us. The LIP does not seem to support Lodamese Nationalism. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 08:09:10, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Being a unitarian party, we cannot support any proposals that shifts power to local governments. Hans Dewitte vice-President of Lodamun |
| Date | 14:41:46, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This typical nationalist semantics. They lose elections, but use their malign influence and Masonic connections to join coalitions, then claim to speak for the entire people. |
| Date | 15:20:23, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Legislative elections are not won or lost in Lodamun. We are a part of the ruling coalition because the people want us to be. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 18:44:27, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Yeah, sure "the people." |
| Date | 20:05:59, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The parties in our coalition together received over a majority of the people's votes. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 22:51:15, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Your right a Coalition build on grounds of granting cabinet seats but no real legislation, and no real government. Ethan Reynolds Party Leader of LIP |
| Date | 23:13:46, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The job of the Presidium is to make legislation. The job of the cabinet is to manage the public sector. They are different responsibilities. The coalitition doesn't agree on everything, and we invite all parties - government or not - to propose legislation. So yes, it can be argued that the coalition isn't about any real legislation, but we are a real government. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 23:15:16, December 21, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, if Mr. Reynolds allows: we have always had a good and firm legislation. In the days of Nationalism we always had a strong and vivid government. A lot has changed during the last few decades. Maybe that is because a lot of political parties, who believe they have the answers, are trying to change the legislation and, doing so, slow down the evolution of our great republic. It seems natural that a coalition which holds a majority of seats in the Presidium is allowed to govern the country. That is called democracy. This system has been working very well for centuries. We are thinking that history repetas itself. Again, we have a party which has the answers to all of life's questions and which is ready to change Lodamese legislation. Paulien Murphy-Spaak LNC spokesman |
| Date | 01:46:34, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The job of the parties is to governor and pass legislation. So we have here is party leaders in cabinet post but yet they still can pass meaningful legislation because it is an unstable coalition. Ethan Reynolds Leader Of LIP |
| Date | 01:52:51, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our job as cabinet ministers is to manage our ministries. Legislation is an issue for the entire Presidium. Also, we do not like to force each other to agree. It is a very stable coalition, because we overlook our differences. An unstable coalition would be one where parties fail to overlook their differences and want to split up because of distrust. Ethan Reynolds, who only recently entered the Presidium, knows nothing about Lodamese politics or Lodamese political conventions. He keeps spewing his foreign ideas of government. They are not welcome here. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 03:05:55, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Your coalition is weak weak weak! Ethan Reynolds |
| Date | 03:13:57, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Ethan Reynolds claims our coalition is week, yet it has managed to keep control of the cabinet. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 03:14:05, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | weak* |
| Date | 06:23:25, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, His coalition could not pass anything that is meaningful. I yield |
| Date | 12:36:57, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr Speaker, This so called "Manifesto" from our colleagues of the Lodamun Independence Party is nothing more then a separatist agenda. These parties, MB and LIP, who support this so called "Manifesto" are only seeking to destroy our Lodamese culture and our nation's proud heritage. Hannes Percy Chairman NAP |
| Date | 14:58:44, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Communist Revolutionist Party | To | Debating the The Independence Party Manifesto |
| Message | Mr speaker, This is clear attack to peace and secularism.We hereby condemn the LIP proposing such a nonsense. Bruce Nebula President General of CRP |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 267 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 289 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 43 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not implement nation renaming requests where the proposed name does not comply with the requirements set out in the Nation Renaming Guide: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6364 |
| Random quote: "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." - Abraham Lincoln |