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Bill: Land Mines Act- 3776
Details
Submitted by[?]: People of Freedom (P.F)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3778
Description[?]:
| Proposal In war time scenario i believe the army should be free to decide tactics. Not civilians but heavily trained personel. Zed Murreloz Defence Minister |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Proposed: The Government leaves this to the army to decide upon.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:43:24, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I rise today to raise my objection to this bill. Landmines have, as history has shown, has cause a plethora of problems once wars are over. They are often forgotten by military officials and are later stumbled upon, years later, by unsuspecting and innocent people. The pro's, we feel, do not outweigh the cons. Joshua Fauver, Party Leader |
| Date | 07:26:39, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, it is true that landmines are very hazardous for a long time. The biggest danger is that, while a conflict may be long forgotten, the landmines are still there and are still active. Paulien Murphy-Spaak LNC spokesman |
| Date | 08:07:39, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Liberal National Party | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our bill was moving to this once we got the chance but we will support this. Ethan Reynolds Party Leader |
| Date | 10:24:27, December 22, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Landmines are a defensive weapon not an offensive weapon. Only damn fools leave them behind after war situation. And yes some may lose limbs. IN WAR. But if this administration were at war we would remove them after the obvious numerous victories we would achieve. Cmdr. Zed Murreloz Minister of Defence |
| Date | 11:51:42, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, how can the Minister of Defence promise us that not a single landmine will be left after a conflict? Does he have a concrete solution for that problem? What is the battleplan to get a 100% clearance? Firmin Cafmeyer MP for LNC |
| Date | 14:23:52, December 22, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Fellow M.P. The technology to remove land mines is in lodamese arsenal. We are more capable that some of you may think. Cmdr. Zed Murreloz Defence Minister |
| Date | 15:03:01, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Communist Revolutionist Party | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr speaker, We don't like this bill at all.Peace is what our great nation needs.This should be sustained by the government itself.Armies are just puppets of war,so they really should not have such concern for removing this weapon.But the government who really starts the must have this concern after war.We are also the ones who should end the war and clean it up. Bruce Nebula President General of CRP |
| Date | 15:18:54, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, with the word of the Defence Minister we might support this proposal. We only hope that the use of landmines will only be considered in the event of a war taking place. Also, the decision is up to the military so we can hardly assume soldiers placing mines at this moment. We assume the decision would still be the Minister's or that of the High Command? Paulien Murphy-Spaak LNC spokesman |
| Date | 19:20:40, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, fellow members of this body, We ask that every aspect of this bill be considered. I would remind all the members of this body commit to due diligence and remember that the decisions we make here have consequences. While the Defense Minister can, and has, "promise" us that not a single land mine will be left behind, the possibility that one, and many more, may be left behind only to be stumbled sometime later by innocent citizens of our own, is still very real. How can we, in good conscience and under the auspice of protecting our people, so casually place them in harms way? And we would, at this time, echo what the great Bruce Nebula has said here on this floor, "Peace is what our great nation needs." Joshua Fauver, Party Leader |
| Date | 21:39:52, December 22, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. The army command with consultation of defence minister will of course be the way. Our commanders etc use strategy during warfare . These mines are defensive and would be put in defensive locations only should an invasion take place. I hope everyone has an understanding of what land mines use is for. I get the feel noone did until now. Its not something that is put in place in middle of high populated areas. DEFENSIVE. Cant emphesize that anymore than I have. Cmdr. Zed Murreloz Defence Minister |
| Date | 23:24:35, December 22, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party | To | Debating the Land Mines Act- 3776 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our Defense Minister can say all he likes that land mines will be placed in defensive locations, that they won't be placed in highly populated areas, and he can insult everyone who dares to disagree with him by saying that he feels nobody knew what landmines were used for until he shared with us. He can go on until he is blue in the face if he likes. Will that change our very well founded concern? Well, I can only speak for my party when I say affirmatively no! What happens, might I ask, when a highly populated area happens to also be a defensive location?! What happens, when as our population grows, cities and suburbs begin to expand into these "defensive locations". As of now, we still have no guarantee that absolutely no land mines will be left behind. As of now, the threat of someone happening across a forgotten land mine and being seriously maimed, injured, or worse is still very very real. We will continue to be firmly opposed to this bill. Joshua Fauver Democratic Labour Party leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 498 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 101 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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