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Bill: Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3781
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker, Extreme Nationalist and their moderate enablers attempted to halt the march to religious freedom before the election - rest assured that the new President will not allow this to stand. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Religious taxation policy is left to the local governments.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:53:58, December 30, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My party does not have a problem with some of these proposals, but we do not want prayer in schools and we do not want foreign religious influence. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 00:59:16, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If we propose those in separate bills, will the GNRG allow this bill to pass? Gregory Cromwell, President of the GDRL, Leader of the ECDP, Supreme Guide of the M.B. and A.O.M. |
| Date | 01:05:23, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We would support this legislation if the appointment of ministers and the salaries and pensions of ministers were left to the practitioners of the religious institutions and not government, even if it is local. Joshua Fauver Democratic Labour Party leader |
| Date | 01:19:47, December 30, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Suprizingly we agree with the DLP. We mostly will support this bill. Matteo Powers Leader of the JDP/ Opposition |
| Date | 03:58:04, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, What the DLP is missing is that the state itself is the institution that is responsible for managing Lodamese Nationalism, so Lodamese Nationalism would stop existing if the state stopped paying its ministers. I would support a bill where the appointment and payment of ministers of religion are left to local government. -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 14:09:01, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The intent of this bill is decentralisation - we have no objection to Nationalist enclaves, run by democratically elected leaders, as long as a Hosian alternative exists. We believe this is the path to co-existence. |
| Date | 14:59:23, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, May I cross the floor to shake the ECDP leader's hand? -- Andre Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
| Date | 15:00:02, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We will vote in favor of this bill, however we do feel that Article 2 should remain the same, and therefore we will put article 2 back in to a vote later on. Hannes Percy Faction Leader NAP-EL |
| Date | 15:56:00, December 30, 2014 CET | From | Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, In the spirit of forgiveness, I accept your gesture, though we have been enemies for so long. President Cromwell, Leader of the Ecumenical Constitutional Democrat Party, Supreme Guide of the Monotheist Brotherhood and the Army of Monotheism |
| Date | 02:10:28, December 31, 2014 CET | From | Democratic Labour Party | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We will abstain from voting on this bill. Joshua Fauver Democratic Labour Party leader |
| Date | 21:42:43, January 01, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Restoration of Religious Liberties - 3780-81 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It seems that the DLP is against true progress, and has been exploiting the conflict between Hosians and Lodamese Nationalists for the sake of political recognition. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 379 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 63 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 157 |
| Random fact: If there are no parties in your nation with seats, feel free to visit the forum and request an early election on the Early Election Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4362 |
| Random quote: "Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" - Ernest Gaines |