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Bill: Free Tuition Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Federal Green Party (FGP)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3823
Description[?]:
No one should be punished for getting an education. For the future prosperity of Solentia we need to encourage people to become highly educated. Just as we do not expect people to pay back the state for their primary or secondary level education, so too should we not expect them to pay back the state for higher education. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Current: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:28:55, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | "We'd accept this if government made higher education totally private." ~Amy Smith, Secondary Chairman of the LPS |
Date | 20:38:57, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | Why not leave higher education policies to state and local governments to decide? Also, wouldn't that mean that the government funds ridiculously high private tuitions then? Giving the private universities billions of taxpayer dollars? Not sure why we shouldn't have both public and private higher education. Especially if the public ones are handled and paid for at the state level. |
Date | 20:42:04, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Communist Party of Solentia (CPS) | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | Amy Smith, we consider possibility of this compromise. Tell us more about your suggestion. Brian Dennis, SDP Progressive faction leader |
Date | 20:56:14, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Communist Party of Solentia (CPS) | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | ROS has a point. Private education and full subsidies from the government will mean a lot of tax money will go to the owners of universities. However the current situation is horrific however it could be worse if even there were no loans avaliable. If the government placed a limit on subsidies based on student's performance, then universities would be unable to set costs unilaterally. Paul Broussard, SDP leader |
Date | 22:56:10, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | We agree with Paul Broussard. In order for a fully private higher educational system with free tuition to work we would need to establish cost controls of some sort in order to limit how much taxpayers have to pay for higher education. So basically it boils down to this: Either have public universities with free tuition, or have a fully privatized higher education system with free tuition and cost controls to limit how much these schools can charge for tuition (of course, the public ones would need similar cost controls as well to limit how much they can raise tuition each year). Otherwise taxpayers would have to pay ridiculous sums to line the pockets of school officials. |
Date | 23:02:10, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | "We have created a bill that creates the privatization we want with some subsides from the government http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=432749 Feel free to check it out!" ~Ted Johnson, Head Chairman of the LPS and Prime Minister |
Date | 23:07:22, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Free Tuition Reform |
Message | I have seen the bill you proposed but I still do not understand why you would be opposed to local and state governments funding education and higher education if they choose to do so. This simply does not make sense to my party and seems like a ridiculous overreach from the national level into the local and state level. The FGRP is a strong supporter of having educational policy handled by local and state governments. For the national government to come in and say the states cannot establish institutions of higher education even if they wish to fully fund such institutions - this goes against everything that our party believes in and stands for. -Nalph Rader, President of Solentia |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 239 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 286 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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