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Bill: Budget proposal of January 3823
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3823
Description[?]:
| "This bill is going to end all subsides to corporations. We currently do not give support to failing corporations, but we did not alter our budget accordingly. Corporations are not worth supporting, as their failure should be acceptable. CEOs are NOT gods. They shouldn't be in bed with the government." ~Tom Rand, Financial Director of the LPS and Minister of Trade and Industry |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 0 SOL | 5,000,000 SOL | 5,000,000 SOL |
| Foreign Affairs | 0 SOL | 6,300,000,000 SOL | 6,500,000,000 SOL |
| Internal Affairs | 0 SOL | 5,300,000,000 SOL | 5,500,000,000 SOL |
| Finance | 0 SOL | 8,400,000,000 SOL | 8,000,000,000 SOL |
| Defence | 0 SOL | 45,000,000,000 SOL | 50,000,000,000 SOL |
| Justice | 0 SOL | 33,000,000,000 SOL | 30,000,000,000 SOL |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 0 SOL | 79,000,000,000 SOL | 75,000,000,000 SOL |
| Health and Social Services | 0 SOL | 109,000,000,000 SOL | 100,000,000,000 SOL |
| Education and Culture | 0 SOL | 135,000,000,000 SOL | 135,000,000,000 SOL |
| Science and Technology | 0 SOL | 65,000,000,000 SOL | 65,000,000,000 SOL |
| Food and Agriculture | 0 SOL | 50,000,000,000 SOL | 50,000,000,000 SOL |
| Environment and Tourism | 0 SOL | 10,000,000,000 SOL | 10,000,000,000 SOL |
| Trade and Industry | 0 SOL | 49,000,000,000 SOL | 10,000,000,000 SOL |
| Total | 0 SOL | 595,005,000,000 SOL | 545,005,000,000 SOL |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:01:42, March 29, 2015 CET | From |  Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | You mean CEOs are not Gods? |
| Date | 21:02:53, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | We agree, Corporate Welfare is the one form of welfare that should be aggressively tackled. Note, if this bill is passed we will pass a major tax reform benefiting the middle class. So the cuts are not being made without benefiting regular Solentians. |
| Date | 21:05:56, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | "The LPS isn't a party of dirty corporatists. We respect private and small businesses and we want to give ordinary people he chance to prosper without government interference." ~Amy Smith, Secondary Chairman of the LPS |
| Date | 21:10:00, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | More specifically this would be the tax proposal that is laid out if this budget proposal passes: >30,000 SOL - 15% >90,000 SOL - 40% Cutting out the middle tax bracket of >60,000 SOL - 30% entirely. Giving the middle class a much needed tax break. We are open to discussion here though and could work with a compromise that changes this a bit. For example: >40,000 SOL - 20% >80,000 SOL - 40% This would bring in a comparable amount of income as well. Please let us know what you think about both/either of these proposals. |
| Date | 22:05:40, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | "If you believe in FREEDOM you should vote no. It's simple really." Qualexander Vadir, Unionist Legislative lead |
| Date | 22:38:10, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | "If corporate welfare, corporatism, and CEOs of multi-billion SOL companies represent freedom, then this bill doesn't promote freedom one bit." ~Ted Johnson, Head Chairman of the LPS and Prime Minister |
| Date | 23:52:11, March 29, 2015 CET | From | Radical Republican Party (RRP) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | Vote no if you love freedom, vote yes if you hate Solentia Paul Brown NLP Chairman |
| Date | 00:18:14, March 30, 2015 CET | From | Free Democratic Party | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | "What about this bill promotes hatred of Solentia?" ~Ted Johnson, Head Chairman of the LPS and Prime Minister |
| Date | 07:16:08, March 30, 2015 CET | From | Communist Party of Solentia (CPS) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | We did't have corporate welfare. Nationalizing failing industries is NOT corporate welfare because industries then transferred to the public sector |
| Date | 08:29:30, March 30, 2015 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | Are both LPS and FGRP stupid enough to believe 80% of the budget of the Ministry of Trade and Industry goes to corporate welfare? Yes. |
| Date | 15:01:40, March 30, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | Where does the rest go? Please give us a detailed breakdown since you clearly know. |
| Date | 05:55:17, March 31, 2015 CET | From | SUN | To | Debating the Budget proposal of January 3823 |
| Message | For starters, ministries managing industry are concerned with research and development, standardizing weights and measures, enforcing what regulation is present in all industries, compiling industrial future projections and present-past statistics that are invaluable to the private sector, encouraging the establishment and growth of small business, managing and encouraging foreign investment and deals as well as all manner of trade, economic forecasting as well as unemployment data that the stock and bond markets depend on, enforcing workplace rights and settling disputes, etc. But aside from all that; the wages of all the many, many employees that will have to be sacked, perhaps even the pensions and benefits of those already retired. But, I guess they can all find a good private sector job now, right? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 250 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 275 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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