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Bill: Lowering the retirement age in Luthori
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3838
Description[?]:
Currently, the retirement age is at a ridiculously high 75, we propose lowering it to a more sensible 60. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 75
Current: 67
Proposed: 60
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 15:23:04, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr. Speaker, In Today's society 60 seems a bit young to be the retirement age. We cannot support this. I yield |
Date | 15:23:15, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr Speaker The Industry and the business need its labourers until the age of 75. Hundreds of thousands will just disappear if we declare 60 as the new retirement age. And what shall all these fit 60 years persons do? Play soccer? I yield |
Date | 18:21:09, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Fit 60 year olds can stay in work if they wish, it's just that the common retirement age will be set there, most people do not enjoy their lives, we should allow them to retire at a sensible age and enjoy their lives. |
Date | 18:43:28, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We must consider the consequences of our actions. If we do this we are encouraging healthy 60 year olds to stop working when they could very well do productive work for 10 more years. Additionally, I request evidence from the gentleman which suggests that people do not "enjoy" their lives. Perhaps he should stop looking inward and look around at his governmental colleagues, we all enjoy our lives and what we do! It is preposterous to think that others automatically do not. I yield |
Date | 19:21:23, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Imperial Party | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The LIP would be willing to support a decrease in the retirement age to 70, not to the extreme age of 60. While it would provide more freedom to the elderly, it could hirt the nation's economy in the long run as the number of potential workers js limited. I yield. |
Date | 22:17:03, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | We see your point, but there are a lot of downtrodden people who detest their jobs, they shouldn't have to work until such an old age. (OOC: My dad is 60 and has to work until 67, he can't cope with his job, hates it and is downtrodden. He's getting too old for this job and he can't take it for another year let alone another seven, so this is why I'm opposed to high retirement ages) We would support a bill lowering the age to 70, however we believe this is still to high. There are also plenty of young people who can take over the elderly in their jobs, I don't think we would be too short of workers. However, for now we would compromise at lowering the age by ten years, to 65. |
Date | 22:19:50, April 28, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr. Speaker, 65 is still too low, 70 is much more appropriate. I yield |
Date | 11:41:59, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | Mr Speaker, Does the Liberal Alliance members have any IQ points maybe they need to be sent back to school? Most of the people are dying 67 on-wards, granted some people are still alive yet not the "Hundreds of thousands" you're claiming. No, they be free to do what they want, something the Liberal Alliance is fully against. I yield (OCC// How about you do REAL! research before saying something.)) |
Date | 12:51:07, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Lowering the retirement age in Luthori |
Message | I really can't believe what I'm seeing, how can anyone in their right mind think 70 or 75 is an acceptable retirement age> |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 25 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 64 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 16 |
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