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Bill: Security Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2169
Description[?]:
| RECOGNISING that there are certain flaws within the security of the nation of Likatonia PROPOSING the creation of a National Identity Card, given to all, and to be carried at all times. PROPOSING increased powers to the police with which to combat criminal activity AIMING to achieve a safer Likatonia |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Current: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Proposed: The police may only disperse a crowd if a state of emergency has been declared.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: No curfew policies may be established.
Proposed: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:58:00, January 09, 2006 CET | From | JLP Liberation Militia | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | Um, no. |
| Date | 15:59:16, January 09, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | We care for our citizens, thus we strive to look after them, by providing greater security. |
| Date | 16:14:40, January 09, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | If the Conservative Party had brought these issues before the Senate while Absalom ben Adamah was still a big cheese in the AAS, they'd likely have had our support. Now.... not so much. |
| Date | 18:06:56, January 09, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | We might support 1 and 2, as states of emergency do require different procedures and are temporary in nature. Article 3 causes us to oppose, however. We do not feel that it is the place of the government to force citizens to carry an id card if they do not wish to. |
| Date | 18:49:25, January 09, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | I'll put that in a seperate bill. |
| Date | 20:31:02, January 09, 2006 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | Thanks to the CP for splitting these into logical entities. We will support this part while reserving judgement on the ID card issue. |
| Date | 05:25:47, January 10, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | Absalom ben Adamah wishes the CP to know that the resources of the PSS are at his disposal in assisting this legislation to pass. These are sensible, moderate laws that are not unconditional in operation. |
| Date | 14:42:09, January 10, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | Yes, certain elements within the CP were tempted to go further, but we feel that the proposed articles do not infinge upon civil liberties in normal circumstances. Only in extroadinary situations in which it will be expected of the government to maintain law and order, as a basic minimum, will these restrictions be introduced, we urge the JLP and the AAS to support this compromise legislation. |
| Date | 15:34:56, January 10, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Security Bill |
| Message | The AAS will oppose. The AAS will ALWAYS oppose attempts to put infringements of civil liberties 'on the books'. Now, let it be heard, however... the AAS would vote in favour of control measures IF THERE WERE A STATE OF EMERGENCY. But, we will never support putting such 'conditional' legislation 'out there', where it can be abused at a whim. (Not that the AAS perceives any of our current, excellent parties, abusing such legislation... but we are talking about conditional bills for an uncertain future... and who knows what the future of Likatonian politics will look like?) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 229 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 271 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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