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Bill: HSP Platform II
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosian Socialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3854
Description[?]:
| More reforms that we see fit |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Proposed: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Current: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.
Proposed: Gambling is legal, but only in private homes and casinos with special licences.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Current: The government actively searches houses for illegal aliens and expels them from the country.
Proposed: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but expels them from the country when discovered.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on the nation's power grid.
Old value:: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Current: Multiple private companies each own and maintain sections of the national power grid.
Proposed: A single private company owns and maintains the national power grid.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:18:06, May 27, 2015 CET | From | Progress Party | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | We will vote against this bill. We disagree with all articles. |
| Date | 18:58:45, May 27, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | We stand with the Progress Party, we are strongly against every single article. |
| Date | 19:22:28, May 27, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Mr Speaker The Liberal Alliance opposes this. I yield. |
| Date | 15:01:30, May 28, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We ask with what vehemence they oppose each of the articles? Perhaps there is some room to compromise? I yield |
| Date | 17:12:43, May 28, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Article 1: The nation's Defence Industry - we don't believe the state should be subsidising the defence industry, we should leave this up to the private sector, although our opposition isn't very strong. Article 2: The Right to Gamble - We are strongly against because we believe there should not be any regulations for gambling at all whatsoever. Our government should not interfere where it's not wanted. Article 3: Stance on Illegal Aliens - Strongly opposed to because we should be seeking out illegal aliens and deporting them, if we do not seek out illegal aliens then some terrorists could be easily getting away with residing in our country, which is a threat to national security. Plus we should seek out illegal aliens anyway, we don't want an overpopulated country, especially if a bulk of that population shouldn't even be here. Article 4: Nation's Power Grid - We shouldn't allow one company to have a monopoly on the entire national grid, because then they could charge extortionate prices to our citizens, which is not at all fair, at least with multiple companies one company wouldn't have a monopoly and the ability to do that. Article 5: Religious Advertising - We are neutral on this. |
| Date | 20:29:21, May 28, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We are willing to drop articles 2 and 4, but we believe that article 3 places an undue burden on Luthorian citizens. In an ideal world, we would actively search for illegal aliens house to house, but what happens when these houses are owned by good citizens who don't want to be bothered by fruitless searches. We see this as a compromise. I yield |
| Date | 10:42:17, May 29, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | We will still oppose this, not seeking out illegal aliens will overcrowd our country and be a threat to security. |
| Date | 15:32:43, May 30, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Mr Speaker. The Liberal alliance: Opposes article 1. The state must'nt own companies in a market economy. Opposes article 2. Let people play at their own responsibility. Supports article 3. But want further open-border policies than proposed by HSP. Opposes article 4. Monopolies are bad. even if its held by a private company. Market economy! Supports article 5. Religion and the state should be separated. I yield. |
| Date | 22:16:12, May 30, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the HSP Platform II |
| Message | Liberal Alliance, why do you want open-boarders? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 70 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 280 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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