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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of June 3856
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Progressive Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3857
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 2
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the 
Great National Republican Guard
Article 3
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the People of Freedom (P.F)
Article 4
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 5
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 6
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Court of Shades
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Article 8
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 10
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Article 11
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the People of Freedom (P.F)
Article 12
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Liberal Progressive Alliance
Article 13
As per the Constitution, the President of the Commonwealth chairs the cabinet.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:28:00, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is a very powerful ministry. It is central to the identity of the government. I do not think that a new party should control it, especially one which performed so poorly in the last election. This bill will fail. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 01:30:28, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If the GNRG would like to propose an alternate cabinet proposal, then we encourage them to do so. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
| Date | 01:34:09, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I am content with the current cabinet, but I may propose another one at some point. We do not need a new cabinet. The current cabinet still has a confidence supply of over 90% of the Presidium. It is not a part of Lodamese political convention to propose a new cabinet after every legislative election. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 02:24:46, June 05, 2015 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. We are unsure of the shadow alliance or its policies. We are currently happy with our coalition partnerships. Dorian Powers Internal Affairs Minister |
| Date | 02:33:34, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Court of Shades | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I completely disagree with Mr Fertig's sentiment. There has been big swings in the Presidum. The Movement for Percyism lost almost a third of their seats. The People of Freedom lost almost half of their seats. There are two new party's in the Presidum. And of course the GNRG had a massive surge by over doubling their seats. A discussion needs to be had on the governing arrangements considering these massive changes. Whether new parties are introduced to the cabinet, or there is simply a reshuffle between the current governing parties. We owe the people of Lodamun to have this discussion. Nick Bird Leader of the Opposition Leader of Shades Shadow Alliance |
| Date | 02:43:21, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Movement for Percyism is still the largest party in the Presidium. Even when combined, the 2 new parties have less than 10% of the seats in the Presidium. Yes, the GNRG has more than doubled it seats. However, the GNRG sees itself as a part of a coalition. The coalition still has 541 seats. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 02:51:37, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Court of Shades | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, If that is how Mr Fertig wishes to see it, fair enough. I just would of Mr Fertig would wish to use his extra power in the Presidum to negotiate a better position for his party and supporters. Nick Bird Leader of the Opposition Leader of Shades The Shadow Alliance |
| Date | 03:20:19, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We control Finance and Trade & Industry. Those are some of the central portfolios to the identity of the government. We are already discussing a reshuffle with our coalition partners, but we are content with the way things are now. We have been an active party for over 300 consecutive years. Our supporters know how we approach these matters; they trust us to represent them properly. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 04:26:50, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We believe this proposal is very fair and takes into account the amount of seats won be each party. In relation to Mr. Fertig's previous point, the current minister of foreign affairs has done next to nothing in that position. We need an energetic and enthusiastic minister who takes the responsibilities of the office seriously. We are more than ready to hold the position. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
| Date | 05:29:40, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Regardless of whatever Alex Gleed believes, this proposal will fail. It is time for the ECA to accept that, and move on. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
| Date | 05:40:37, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of June 3856 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, in response to Mr. Gleed's accusation that I have done nothing, or at least not much, as Minister of Foreign Affairs, I can only reply that my cabinet and I have done a great deal of work to stay focused on what was going on in the rest of Terra. Maybe it looks as if we didn't do anything, but most of our work happened behind the scene, away from all media coverage. In my opinion, as well as my party's, we should not intervene to much and not mingle in international politics as other countries have done in the past with us. What would Mr. Gleed have done in the case Saridan, where official apologies were demanded? Sometimes ignoring someone is a stronger weapon than words. Jonathan Geel Minister of Foreign Affairs |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 58 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 541 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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