We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857
Details
Submitted by[?]: Great National Republican Guard
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3857
Description[?]:
Trevor Fertig's bid for Presidency, and a shake-up of the coalition. |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President of the Commonwealth chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the People of Freedom (P.F)
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 08:20:42, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The largest party should be head of government. We oppose. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
Date | 08:24:26, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Alex Gleed's opinion will not dictate how governments are formed. There is no requirement for the President to be from the largest party in the coalition or the Presidium. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
Date | 08:33:03, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, there is no regulation on who should provide the President. May I remind all of the MP's that we live in a democracy where mutual understanding and cooperation should be the base of success of a coalition. Even the smallest fraction can provide the President. The most important aspect is that the coalition gets the support of the people. Thus, there's nothing wrong with this proposal. Marco Morar LNC chairman |
Date | 11:39:11, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker A leader who threatens other parties with violence and refuses to apologise is not fit to be president. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
Date | 16:20:34, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We did not see Alex Gleed making the same complaint a few years ago when the Saridani President was threatening Lodamun and refusing to apologise. While being oblivious to international issues, and while having less than 4% of the votes in the last election, the ECA demands control of the Foreign Affairs Ministry and tries to dictate the coalition formation process. This must be a joke. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
Date | 18:31:58, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Mr. Fertig is being highly hypocritical. How can he condemn the Saridani President for threatening Lodamun and refusing to apologise, when he has done the exact same thing to two members of the ECA? The main reason the ECA is interested in the Foreign Affairs portfolio is due to our policy to ratify more treaties to show unity with other nations. Treaties such as the anti-slavery treaty for example. This is an area that we should be addressing. If Trevor Fertig does become President, then of course we would want to endorse him, as our parties vote similarly (especially of late). However, we simply cannot support his Presidency if he still refuses to apologise for his abhorrent and threatening comments that are unbecoming of any leader, let alone a President. We will not ask again. Either Mr. Fertig apologises, or the ECA will publicly condemn his Presidency. He is an experienced politician that leads a proud and historically significant party, and I trust he will make the right decision so we can all move on. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
Date | 18:37:19, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I will not apologise. I want to also make it clear that I did not condemn the former Saridani President in the Presidium; I simply pointed out the hypocrisy in the ECA condemning me without condemning the former Saridani President. The ECA claims that it would endorse me if I apologise, but they are hypocrites. They are the same party that said that Presidency should be given to the largest party. They have changed their arguments now. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of Lodamun |
Date | 18:47:33, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We are deeply saddened at the choice Mr. Fertig has made. His stubbornness and arrogance know no bounds. We accept that the major parties wish for the head of government to be from the GNRG. We would have preferred Alexander Miller to remain as President, but we live in a democracy and we respect the consensus the governing parties have come to. We are not angry at the GNRG or Trevor Fertig, just deeply dissapppinted at his lack of integrity. Alex Gleed Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
Date | 21:30:51, June 05, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker, while LNC is rather isolationist, we applaud the fact that some politicians still want to get involved with other nations. Treaties are a good way to get in touch with other nations. Who doesn't remember the 'condemnation of Lodamun' treaty? Mr. Gleed, read my lips: not one single nation will get in touch with Lodamun if they don't respect us. We try to respect the other nations, even the ones that condemn and judge us. Ratifying treaties will not change a single thing to that situation. Some nations simply don't accept our politics. Too bad. Ladies and gentlemen of this Presidium: now I can retire. I have seen it all. Thank you Jonathan Geel incumbent Minister of Foreign Affairs |
Date | 22:02:00, June 05, 2015 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Cabinet Reshuffle; 3856-3857 |
Message | Mr. Speaker On our next cabinet reshuffle we seek the justice ministry as well. We will serve this ministry well. Raven Valentinn P.F Leader |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 541 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 26 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 32 |
Random fact: Characters are considered to be "owned" by the player who first mentioned or created them. In practice, players may share responsibility for role-playing a character, but ultimate authority rests with the owner. |
Random quote: "In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Pastor Martin Niemoller |