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Bill: Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option

Details

Submitted by[?]: Progressive Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2170

Description[?]:

Once again, we have decided to bring this issue back to the Convocation/Senate floor for debate. It is our belief that the threat to use a nuclear first strike will prove to be a powerful deterrent.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date08:22:23, January 10, 2006 CET
FromLikaton Fascist Front
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessagePSS has proposed this in the past, and we are happy to support. This is the deterrent we need.

Date14:26:26, January 10, 2006 CET
FromAM Radical Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageRLP agrees with providing our military with all possible defensive options.

Date15:39:49, January 10, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageThe AAS is torn.

If we are going to have nuclear weapons as a deterrent, the MORE potent that deterrent, the better.

Under THAT proviso... even this legislation does not go far enough.

However, on the other hand... it was not the AAS wish to HAVE a nuclear deterrent... and we have opposed all 'militarisation'.

So - should the AAS vote 'principles'... and oppose ANY militarising legislation....?

Or, should the AAS vote 'pragmatism'... and accept that, if we HAVE a nuclear deterrent... it should be a good one?

Date18:20:15, January 10, 2006 CET
FromJLP Liberation Militia
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageJLP supports this legislation, whlie understanding the strife in the AAS. While hoping we never go nuclear, we believe we should have the legal ability to go nuclear if necessary.

If, according to current legislation, we are hit with a nuclear attack, we have the right to retaliate. Obviously, common sense dictates that we won't have a chance to retaliate if we are hit with a nuclear strike.

Date19:25:44, January 10, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageThe AAS takes onboard the JLP thought... which makes us think, more than ever, that this legislation is 'half-hearted'.... something of a gesture, but lacking real teeth.

If the AAS is going to step away from the pacifist agenda on this issue, we are not going to step in increments.

If we REALLY want a nuclear deterrent, we might as well opt for the "First Strike" option.

Otherwise, as the JLP point out... we are always going to be the 'second player' in the nuclear war game... and the second player always plays from a disadvantage.

Date22:49:52, January 10, 2006 CET
FromJLP Liberation Militia
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageAAS is right on.

Date05:11:47, January 11, 2006 CET
FromProgressive Party
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageWe actually do support and have advocated for a first strike option but proposed this because we didn't think that we could get it passed. We will change the proposal accordingly.

Date20:55:47, January 11, 2006 CET
FromLikaton Fascist Front
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageBring it on !

Date00:27:02, January 12, 2006 CET
FromCommonwealth Workers Army
ToDebating the Progressive Reform Bill - The Nuclear Option
MessageIf we have it, it might as well have teeth. Supported.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
       

Total Seats: 421

no
  

Total Seats: 79

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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