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Bill: Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal
Details
Submitted by[?]: People of Freedom (P.F)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3862
Description[?]:
| Mr. Speaker. In order for the Justice Department to act. The removal of parliamentry immunity must be decided for Mr. Moctos. Where charges under Lodamese Terrorism Laws will be laid. Once passed Mr. Moctos will be removed from his seat in the Presidium where he will be taken to nearest prison to face justice. Dr. Gina Berg Minister of Justice |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:21:26, June 16, 2015 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My party would support removal of parliamentary privilege for all the members of the Anti-Kregon Coalition, or the United Republics Party, or whatever those idiots call themselves nowadays. That should keep them on their toes. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 10:22:13, June 16, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, aye here. John Uyttebroeck LNC spokesman |
| Date | 10:56:11, June 16, 2015 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | M. Speaker, What terrorist charge could possibly be levied against me when I have done nothing wrong? Nethuss Moctos URP Leader |
| Date | 11:06:58, June 16, 2015 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Mr. Moctos you will be formally charged with the bombings of the LNC HQ. Dr. Gina Berg Minister of Justice |
| Date | 11:18:06, June 16, 2015 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | M. Speaker, The AKC was allegedly responsible for that. I am not a member of that party and have committed no acts of terrorism. Nethuss Moctos URP Leader |
| Date | 12:04:11, June 16, 2015 CET | From | Court of Shades | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr Speaker. The Shadow Alliance has been watching the situation unfolding concerning the AKC and the URP very carefully. It is has been very difficult to determine what actually happened, with allegations flying left and right. However, after the Shadow Alliance's four year investigation, we have determined that the AKC and URP were not responsible for any bombing on the LNC headquarters. Instead, it appears to of been an attempt by the ruling coalition to pin the attack on a political opponent. With this new information, the Shadow Alliance will not be supporting this motion. Furthermore, we believe that this motion is unconstitutional, and if it does pass will be invalid. Only the people of Lodamun can decide who is in the Presidum and therefore who receives the protections of this institution. If the people of Lodamun believe Mr Moctos is a terrorist, then it is them who have the power to vote him out of the Presidum. The Shadow Alliance will stand in solidarity with Mr. Moctos and the URP. We will protect them with all the power we have, if they so request. The ruling coalition will have to go through The Shadow Alliance and our supporters to get to Mr Moctos. Does the Coalition really want to start a Civil War over this? Nick Bird Leader of the Opposition The Shadow Alliance |
| Date | 12:40:05, June 16, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | M. Speaker, The ECA will not support this motion. We agree with the Shadow Alliance that this is not the right way to go about dealing with this very delicate issue - in fact it could indeed be considered unconstitutional. Also, if Mr. Moctos is to be charged, he is entitled to a fair trial. We do not believe the current political climate in Lodamun (particularly with reference to the GNRG bias) can cater for a fair trial. We are so utterly tired with the GNRG and their arrogant, controlling, patronising and condescending ways. We are sick and tired with how the GNRG conducts themselves, and we won't stand for it any longer. They need a serious reality check. David Butterman Leader Eastern-Central Alliance |
| Date | 16:29:25, June 16, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Before anyone says anything is "unconstitutional" - I would like them to make reference to the constitution or our other laws. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 17:28:27, June 16, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Another note... Nethuss Moctos says that he is not a member of the AKC. What party is he a member of? The United Republics Party was not in the last election. Nethuss Moctos is only in the Presidium because he was on the party list for the Anti-Kregon Coalition, which was allotted 35 seats: http://classic.particracy.net/viewnews.php?newsid=464197 To deny his membership in the AKC is disingenuous. All of the URP MPs are obligated to retain their membership in the AKC, or resign from the Presidium. The AKC was elected to this Presidium, not the URP. While you call yourselves the United Republics Party, you are also members of the Anti-Kregon Coalition because that is how you were elected to the Presidium. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 00:37:19, June 17, 2015 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker The Shadow Alliance claiming they have conducted an investigation is flawed. They have not consulted any govt departments as far as I in my capacity as leader of P.F. I would like to know who the criminals were who did the investigation and where they got their evidence from? These two parties (Shadow alliance and AkC/URP) lack the motivation to even form clear policy. Let alone conduct investigations! Without use of criminals! Marc Mekel Leader of the People Of Freedom |
| Date | 04:04:53, June 17, 2015 CET | From | Court of Shades | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Why would we consult with government departments? Our investigation revealed evidence that this corrupt government is attempting to remove a political opponent by these trumped up charges. Consulting with the government would of been pointless. We are still in the process of concluding our investigation. The only reason we revealed this information was to contribute this farcical debate. Unlike the Coalition, we will wait until we have concluded our investigation before throwing around allegations of guilt. P.F and the coalition will just have to be patient and wait. I would also note that The Shadow Alliance received as many votes as the more established P.F party. Obviously the public are happy with our policy platform. Nick Bird Leader of the Opposition The Shadow Alliance |
| Date | 05:55:38, June 17, 2015 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mr. Moctos- Parliamentary Privileges ACT- Removal |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If we wanted to plot to destabilise the opposition, we would have plotted against all opposition parties, not only the smallest and most insignificant one. We would have also plotted against an influential one that could get parties to vote alongside it. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Vice President of GDR Lodamun |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 429 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 170 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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