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Bill: Bill to give the people what they want
Details
Submitted by[?]: Covenanters (IA)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2172
Description[?]:
| A bill to grant the wishes of our subjects, as expressed in recent opinion polls (and get a bit of popularity back). |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Current: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Proposed: Child labour is regulated by local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers carry standard firearms.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:17:01, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | I like article 1, but can't agree w/ disarming our police or eliminating our pension system. |
| Date | 11:26:25, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Um, the third article provides no change to the current legislation. |
| Date | 11:41:05, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | You are proposing bills w/ unrelated articles. This is manipulation of the game. How can you do this and call yourself a Christian. You are evil. Oh wait, that is what you said to me when I did this. NPH doesn't support this bill in its current form. We will be voting no. |
| Date | 13:49:38, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | LGP: read it more carefully. |
| Date | 14:04:48, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | WCP: difference is I will separate the articles that have enough support to pass on their own. It's called negotiation and compromise. |
| Date | 14:17:43, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Oh. I'll vote yes. |
| Date | 15:32:13, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Ditch 2 and ok. |
| Date | 15:34:30, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Our general population aren't allowed to own firearms, our police force(s) are backed up by the military and that article allows for specialist firearms teams. Do you really think the remaining police officers who are not firearms specialists need to be armed? |
| Date | 18:51:55, January 11, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Oh our general populace isn't allowed to have guns. Which of course means that criminals won't have guns, because criminals would never break the law. Wow now that makes perfect sense. |
| Date | 04:06:08, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Due to various legislation, there is only one way criminals can get their hands on guns, our defence industry can sell guns to anyone. |
| Date | 05:30:59, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Criminals can get their hands on guns illegally. Is it impossible to get through our borders? So there is no smuggling etc. Perhaps the DUP is willing to risk innocent police officers' lives to gain votes, but NPH won't. |
| Date | 21:01:51, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | I come from a country with a proud history of policemen armed with nothing more than a short wooden stick and a whistle. |
| Date | 02:36:28, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Oh and you have no violent crime? |
| Date | 05:56:45, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Actually, there is less violent crime in the UK than the US. |
| Date | 15:14:38, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Less does not equal 0. |
| Date | 15:32:47, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Never said it did. |
| Date | 20:23:24, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Correct: less does not equal zero. But just as sure as that is true so is the fact that legalised gun ownership and drugs abuse, like a certain party supports, would damage that low rate. |
| Date | 01:31:39, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | Actually where I am originally from the in US has among the highest gun ownership rates, yet has crime rates much lower than those of the UK. But then again we have had the right to bear arms in the US ever since we got rid of our authoritarian leaders. I hope that the UDA and Seosavists realize that under current law it is illegal for any members of their militia to own guns and after this bill the only people who will own guns in Luthori is the army. So we really dont' feel all that threatened by a civil war. Guns versus sticks, we feel confident in our guns. |
| Date | 09:25:43, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | White Castle seems to have serious problems with the concept of illegal guns. Are you telling me there are no drugs in America because they are illegal? |
| Date | 11:06:38, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Bill to give the people what they want |
| Message | OK, are you literate? That is what I have been saying this whole time. You are among the people that have been saying we don't need to have armed police because guns are illegal in our country. Pick a damn position can you? For example when you said above: "Our general population aren't allowed to own firearms, our police force(s) are backed up by the military and that article allows for specialist firearms teams. Do you really think the remaining police officers who are not firearms specialists need to be armed?" So our criminals have guns and you want our police disarmed. Brilliant proposal. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 352 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 398 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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