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Bill: Governing Council Modification

Details

Submitted by^[?]: Democratic Socialist Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2170

Description^[?]:

With 600 seats, however unlikely it may be, there is the chance of a deadlock. 601 seats will ensure this cannot happen.

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.

Old value:: 600

Current: 350

Proposed: 601

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	13:26:54, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Democratic Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Opinions..?

Date	16:11:21, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Aloria Green Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Hey, why not?

Date	16:40:07, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Democratic Liberal Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	We support this bill on the grounds that this will make Parliament less complicated with no ties in votes etc.

Date	18:49:26, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Democratic Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Off to vote then.

Date	18:51:36, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Uh, no. There's already no instance as of yet with tie votes. It will simply make things harder to calculate and more confusing.

Date	18:57:59, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Oh look. All I need to do is persuade HCP and it fails. Too bad they have 99% voting record with the ICP.

Date	19:17:40, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Oh, and please read Alorian history and it's wiki sometime, mk? The governing body is the parliament, the cabinet (committe of regions, chaired by head of gov't), and the governing council. The governing council is the executive branch of 5 appointed by the head of state. The parliament is not the governing council. Not only is this bill a trivial adjustment as a tie is unlikely in a parliament with more than 200 seats, it is also ignorant of Alorian culture.

Date	19:26:58, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Democratic Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Then we shall simply pass it after you lose even more seats at the next election.

Date	19:46:02, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	That is an ignorant and uneducated guesstimate. The parties that are federalist and capitalist will do better based on the positions and importance of issues in this nation.

Date	19:47:12, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Also, note how those who are capitalist/devolution are the largest parties and those with federalist tendencies among the socialists are the third and fourth largest parties respectively. My comments are based on fact, yours are based on ignorance.

Date	19:47:35, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	P.S. For that comment, I will vote no on any additional attempts by your party to demilitarize.

Date	20:20:09, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Well, here's a compromise: if you can pass my Confederate Aloria More Act (74 seats more required), then I'd vote for this one. Thoughts?

Date	21:09:14, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Democratic Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Not a chance.

Date	21:16:56, January 12, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Oh look. 213 seats against. This bill just failed. You don't compromise with us, we don't compromise with you. That means that if we ever get half between us your bills will be reversed in one bill. Also, odds are that you will never get 2/3 between you while everyone remains with similar views. :P

Date	04:27:20, January 13, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Oh look. There's a 269:268. That proves my point. it's a near impossibility to get a draw in Aloria. To inconvieince everyone on an astronomical chance would be like to waste hundreds of trillians on a giant laser just in case an asteroid were to be near enough to Terra to be considered a possible hit. It wouldn't be that much money, but it would still be a waste of manpower and money (changing the laws, actually getting someone to make a 601st seat to be exactly the same as the other 600, etc.). Is it really worth it?

Date	08:59:42, January 13, 2006 CET
From	Aloria Green Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	It depends a lot on election results and what bills come up... It is possible...

Date	19:58:22, January 13, 2006 CET
From	Independent Capitalist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	Indeed. But highly improbable. It is also possible that Terra will get hit by an asteroid. Thus the analogy.

Date	02:16:12, January 14, 2006 CET
From	Aloria Green Socialist Party
To	Debating the Governing Council Modification
Message	True, but DSP admits as much in the bill description...

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Voting

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Seats

yes

Total Seats: 269

Total Seats: 331

abstain

Total Seats: 0

Random fact: Alduria, Rildanor and Lourenne all have Canrilaise (French) cultures.

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