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Bill: Nobility reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosianische Demokraten
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3886
Description[?]:
| This reform should stop nobility to be hereditary and stop this feudalist nonsense. Reasons why, will be mentioned in the comments. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Privileges of nobility (if nobility is recognised by the government).
Old value:: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and can be hereditary.
Current: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and is not hereditary.
Proposed: Nobility confers only titles and certain minor rights, but no political powers, and is not hereditary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:42:16, August 02, 2015 CET | From | Hosianische Demokraten | To | Debating the Nobility reform |
| Message | Nobility itself is not ideal but it's really not supposed to be hereditary. The reason is quite nationalist. If we have a "noble state hero" does his/her son/daughter really deserve it? They haven't done anything to the state and are exploiting the "noble state hero's" name. Plus it's extremely unfair. |
| Date | 15:18:34, August 03, 2015 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Nobility reform |
| Message | Herr Speaker, Titles of nobility are awarded by the Privy Council, a council empowered by the state to deal with titles of nobility. The Privy Council includes members of the House of Faust-Essen, the current pretenders to the Dorvish throne. As we've stated before, titles of nobility are not handed out freely, the family as a whole traditionally contributes and not just one person. So yes, the family would deserve it because several successive members of the family have contributed. Voldemar von Farber, President of the State Council |
| Date | 20:39:43, August 03, 2015 CET | From | Hosianische Demokraten | To | Debating the Nobility reform |
| Message | Nein nicht ganz, This idea is horrible, because no one chooses to be in a not-noble family, the idea you´re passing is feudalistic. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 128 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 367 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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