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Bill: Bill of the Aloria Coalition
Details
Submitted by[?]: Independent Capitalist Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2171
Description[?]:
Sorry, this is proof that the Aloria Coalition isn't collapsing. One party left so we're adjusting it accordingly. And no, the AC isn't monarchist. And no, the AC isn't for anything but a shared cabinet and head of state. We're not out for some fascist control of the parliament bills. |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Fair Capitalism Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Fair Capitalism Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Independent Capitalist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Social Reform Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Hammerian Capitalist Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 22:18:23, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | ...Just fascist control of the cabinet and HoS.. Well, that's ok then... |
Date | 22:19:29, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Social Reform Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | And if your coalition gets into power, it'll be different? |
Date | 22:37:10, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Oh, but I think that fascist control of cabinet and HoS is better than fascist control of cabinet, HoS, *and* parliament like your coalition wants. At least the AC is diverse (and doesn't steal each other's voter base). |
Date | 23:00:53, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | We are opposed to this on the grounds that the entire system of coalitions is undemocratic. We call on the AC and all other coalitions to dispand. |
Date | 23:07:46, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Right. This is coming from a PAC supporter. Face it. There's the PAC, the JC, and the AC, and the AC is in power... |
Date | 23:23:36, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | It's true. We don't believe in coalition control, and when we say this, you tell us that we must form our own coalition to combat this. For now, we will fight fire with fire and destroy the coalition system from within, freeing Aloria from the AC's grasp. Down with the AC! Long live freedom! |
Date | 23:32:14, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | AGSP, tell us, are you not a member of the Coalition of Alorian Progressives? |
Date | 23:34:11, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Read carefully.... |
Date | 23:37:40, January 12, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | I understand the AGSP point but it would be more principled to stay out of the coalition system altogether. We see the intentions but not how it could work. |
Date | 00:04:03, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Without coalitions that at least represent a fraction of the parties, it will be tyrany of the majority. For instance, if HCP and ICP ever got > 300 seats and there was no coalitions, it would be 2 parties in the cabinet! Is *that* representative!? |
Date | 00:04:35, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | The people have spoken. |
Date | 00:12:41, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | "I understand the AGSP point but it would be more principled to stay out of the coalition system altogether. We see the intentions but not how it could work." We will have to make it work. Alone, we cannot destroy the thing we despise. Alone we cannot give freedom back to Alorians. We are not pleased that it has come to this. |
Date | 03:06:13, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | If there are no coalitions it will simply be down to as few parties as it can be to pass. It will be *less* democratic. |
Date | 09:01:02, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | It would be more representative! It would be up to the people. It would be democracy, not this sham. |
Date | 16:45:56, January 13, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | It's not a sham. If the people don't like us, why do they keep voting us in power? |
Date | 02:18:23, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | They don't! They vote for your puppets! |
Date | 04:14:45, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | They are not puppets! |
Date | 16:23:22, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Oh yes they are! |
Date | 19:09:23, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | Heh. Easy for you to say. You have a lot of puppets. |
Date | 20:36:54, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Aloria Green Socialist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | No- look- they all do their own thing! They want to be real boys! They have no strings to hold them down! |
Date | 22:13:50, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Independent Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Bill of the Aloria Coalition |
Message | ... |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 331 | ||||
no | Total Seats: 129 | ||||
abstain |
Total Seats: 140 |
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