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Bill: Citizenship reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hosianische Demokraten
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3895
Description[?]:
| This reform should give citizenship to every Dorvish person that was born here or is a legal immigrant. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: Citizenship is gained by passing a qualifying exam.
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:13:21, August 21, 2015 CET | From |  Hosianische Demokraten | To | Debating the Citizenship reform |
| Message | A qualifying exam for citizenship is absurd and very undemocratic. The current law does not give every national the citizenship, its also very unpractical because of discrimination against psychologically unable people. Its undemocratic because not everyone agrees with the culture of Dorvik and it doesnt give citizenship to people who politically disagree with it. The history of this country is being taught in schools and children have to know it for good grades, its not right to not give them citizenship if they dont know it yet. |
| Date | 21:40:32, August 21, 2015 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Citizenship reform |
| Message | Herr Speaker, I don't think that the SD partei knows what a democracy is. A democracy is a form of government where the people are allowed to vote for their representatives in the government and it usually includes freedom of speech. It has nothing to do with the fact that someone should know the history and culture of the nation they live in. We are a nationalistic people (OOC: Read the Cultural protocol before spurting out things ). Besides, just because someone doesn't agree with how our nation is doesn't mean that they shouldn't know about it. It seems quite ignorant if you don't agree with our culture while you don't even know it. It sounds more like an excuse for not having knowledge of our culture. And I don't know what you mean with " Psychological unable people ", but I think that someone with a depression is capable of doing an exam at the age of 18. People with a Mental illness, such as down syndrom, will be excused and will obtain citizenship without the exam. |
| Date | 22:27:53, August 21, 2015 CET | From | Hosianische Demokraten | To | Debating the Citizenship reform |
| Message | A democracy is a political system in which the people decide over political issues it's a composition of -demo (people) and -cratos (to rule,power). It's existing in two forms: -Direct and representative Democracy. The problem is that the exam doesn't give citizenship to every national, which is limiting our right to vote. Our party is composed of people which mostly don't agree with our cultural protocols. But we've read them. And yes I've ment psychologically disabled people (sorry for the spelling mistake). Which includes direct neurological damage, down syndrome, mental illnesses (but not only depression) and so on. |
| Date | 20:26:21, August 22, 2015 CET | From | Dorvische Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Citizenship reform |
| Message | OOC: I would have thought that it was clear by now, but you can't doubt the cultural protocol. It's what our nation is and how it should be. Keep that in mind before you destroy Farsun's work making this country and it's rich history. |
| Date | 21:39:31, August 22, 2015 CET | From | Hosian-Konservative Allianz | To | Debating the Citizenship reform |
| Message | OOC: If you want to continue to play an apolitical, acultural party, you're going to just destroy work that was done by dozens of players who bought into the history. You were welcomed here and you are wearing out your welcome. There are dozens of countries that could use a player such as yourself and quite frankly this is not one of them. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 420 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 75 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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