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Bill: Educating the Proletariat
Details
Submitted by[?]: Zunft fur eine Darnussen Revoluzionen
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3915
Description[?]:
| Education is the most powerful weapon of our revolution. Ludger Geier Generalsekretär der ZDR |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National Curriculum
Old value:: There is a National Curriculum which all government schools are obliged to follow; non-government schools are fully exempt
Current: There is a National Curriculum which is advisory only and is not binding on any schools.
Proposed: There is a National Curriculum which all schools are obliged to follow.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Current: Education is private, but the government issues vouchers to pay for the schooling of disadvantaged children.
Proposed: Education is entirely public and free; private schools are banned.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Pre-school education.
Old value:: Pre-school education is private, but the government covers the schoolcosts of poor families.
Current: The government leaves development of nurseries to the private sector.
Proposed: The government maintains a system of free publically owned nursery and pre-school educational centres.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The government introduces means tested loans for higher education tuition, to be paid back by students after earnings reach a certain amount.
Proposed: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Proposed: The government does not allow private higher education institutions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:08:14, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Demokrat Konservativen Partei (DKP) | To | Debating the Educating the Proletariat |
| Message | Dear colleagues, Out of the enormous quantity of bills you are presenting to us - and we once did as you, so there is no problem with that - there are some subjects on which we could have discussed before you rammed them to vote. We are not *against* everything the so-called"revolutionaries" would propose and we are not closed to every suggestions you can make, only you happen to make good suggestions entangled with others we would never accept. Jan Brunsiek, Kanzler OOC : I must also say I devoted less time than before to particracy lately, but I'm still here and I intend to at least vote for or against every project you present. |
| Date | 18:53:43, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Zunft fur eine Darnussen Revoluzionen | To | Debating the Educating the Proletariat |
| Message | Dear colleagues, and I say colleagues with some disgust, There is no time to waste debating revolution, especially with you robber baron politicians. Ludger Geier Generalsekretär der ZDR OOC: We all have things keeping us busy from the game, so I understand not devoting large sums of time, and any time you devote is great time so no worries :) |
| Date | 19:21:28, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Demokrat Konservativen Partei (DKP) | To | Debating the Educating the Proletariat |
| Message | Dear colleagues, We understand how you can believe that your ideas are the best ones, but frankly we do not think trying to impose them all at once without even trying to grab the support of your colleagues is going to help you to realize those reforms. Let us give you an ounce of good faith : We are against article 1, because private schools, properly regulated, are a threat to nobody. They serve to give an alternative to the national program, which we also believe should be mostly given to the three parts of our country for them to have something to say about their cultures. Because of what we said about article 1, we are also against article 2. Article 3 doesn't have our approval because you are proposing to nationalize daycares, which would cost us a fortune while our current system of covering the costs for the poors is more efficient and more flexible. Your system would even give daycare for free to those "rich capitalists" you seem to despise so much. We could get behind article 4, but again we like the idea of helping the poors and to let some autonomy to the universities. Making them entirely funded by the government means they cannot bite the hand which feeds them. You could argue for article 5, because we worry that the private universities could end up with all the good students. So of course we have to either give a very good support for the students going to these or limit the tuition fees. Yet, if an university wants to be considered as private, is it really that grave? |
| Date | 20:39:31, September 29, 2015 CET | From | Zunft fur eine Darnussen Revoluzionen | To | Debating the Educating the Proletariat |
| Message | Dear colleagues, A fully public and free education guarantees all members of our society, most importantly the oppressed poor and working class, are able to educate themselves and further the revolution. And yes, the children of capitalists would gain the same free public education, but they would be equal to our working class revolutionaries with whom they would attend school side by side. Unlike you plutocrats, we seek equality for all, not just a privileged few. Ludger Geier Generalsekretär der ZDR |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 85 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 316 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats. |
| Random quote: "The superior man is distressed by the limitations of his ability; he is not distressed by the fact that men do not recognize the ability that he has." - Confucius |