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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of March 2171

Details

Submitted by[?]: Radical Conservative Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2171

Description[?]:

Proposing a compromising Cabinet consisting of the four largest parties. The RCP feels that this is equal, the most important positions divided between the parties.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:29:34, January 14, 2006 CET
From People's Equality Party Of Trigunia
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
Messageno dice, buds

Date20:35:22, January 14, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
MessageWe agree that the split of the seats is fair, but we cannot work with fascists, so we will be voting no.

Date14:52:47, January 15, 2006 CET
From Fasces Kromina Conservatives
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
MessageJust so you know, our usage of fasces stands for law and order, not fascism.

Date19:22:00, January 15, 2006 CET
From Fasces Kromina Conservatives
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
MessageThe Swedish national police department uses it, and they are not fascist.
The Swiss canton of St. Gallen's flag has it. And those are just two of very many examples.
We are a democratic party, and we want to fight crime. We vote very much like Radical Conservative Party for example, but you can obviously work together with them.

Also, would you consider a coalition with communists then?

Date03:04:56, January 16, 2006 CET
From Liberty Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
MessageYour name is merely suggestive. Your voting history is a much clearer indicator of your political leanings. Your similarity to the RCP hardly changes one's opinion, as they could with some justification be described as fascist.

Democracy is not necessarily a contra-indicator of fascism.

We have worked with the RCP before, but historically they have been the only conservative element of the coalition and hence their power was minimal. Now that there are three seriously conservative parties in the country, they become much more dangerous (as we can see from the laws that were recently passed).

I would consider a coalition with communists depending on their actual policies, and depending on the communist strength in parliament (I wouldn't want to give a communist (or fascist) party or parties significant executive power if they already have significant legislative power, that is just common sense).

Date13:48:08, January 16, 2006 CET
From Fasces Kromina Conservatives
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2171
MessageIf you do look at our voting history, you will see that we want to fight crime and that we want to maintain laws against drugs and such. You will also see that we are nationalistic, and that we want to have mandatory military service. Why is that so bad?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 221

no
   

Total Seats: 192

abstain
   

Total Seats: 142


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