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Bill: Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917
Details
Submitted by[?]: Borgerlig-Demokratiske Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3918
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker, as we continue to be barred from implementing our election promises on foreign aid due to previous governments having sold out our right to sovereign decision-making to the globalist doctrine, we at least want to move as far towards our preferred policy as we can with this bill. Erwin Schausberger (Fv) Foreign Minister |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Current: The government only gives aid for disaster relief in foreign countries.
Proposed: The government gives moderate aid to countries in need.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:37:27, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Folkepartiet (People's Party) | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Herr President, Herr Schausberger and I have been over this before. Does he even acknowledge at all that there are so many nations around Terra where human rights are trampled daily, where people live in abject poverty and suffer from the unstable situation they find themselves in? Had I not vivid memories of my last altercation with him, I would find it hard to believe anyone could be so callous and cynical about fellow human beings. Nelline Opland (FP - Dreton) Leader of Folkepartiet |
| Date | 11:43:39, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Borgerlig-Demokratiske Union | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, the hon. lady's permanent ad hominem attacks and character slurs over the intentions behind this bill are nothing new, so I will not bother to respond to them, even though I do wish to take the opportunity to point out the fact that they somewhat undermine the narrative of her supposed personal decency and fairness in the treatment of other politicians. If foreign aid is such a great thing, then whey do the nations who have received it for decades and centuries still "live in abject poverty and suffer from the unstable situation they find themselves in"? That is the problem we have to face, and unless the hon. lady this government does not believe that the constant sentimentalist wailing as displayed by her on a regular basis is the best approach. Erwin Schausberger (Fv) Foreign Minister |
| Date | 11:45:01, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Borgerlig-Demokratiske Union | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | OOC: Of course it is a bit hypocritical for Schausberger to complain about ad hominem, but he doesn't play fair |
| Date | 12:02:24, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Folkepartiet (People's Party) | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Herr President, I strongly distance myself from the tone of the Minister's comments. I'm afraid he is mistaking my questions to him for an ad hominem attack. Folkepartiet is not against making aid more effective - but it is against giving less aid because of the complete non sequitur that it must be the aid that is the problem. We've been through this last session: you could just as well add regulations on reporting how the money is spent, on good governance and on respect for human rights, and it would achieve the same goal the Foreign Minister says he is championing - and I'll take him at his word. Nelline Opland (FP - Dreton) Leader of Folkepartiet |
| Date | 12:06:17, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Borgerlig-Demokratiske Union | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, the thing is that you must first tackle the economic problems that hold back developing nations before you can even get them to listen to what we have to say about fancy first-world concepts such as good governance. Most historic examples show that economic growth triggers democracy, not the other way round. Erwin Schausberger (Fv) Foreign Minister |
| Date | 12:12:09, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Folkepartiet (People's Party) | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Herr President, So in the meantime, the Minister believes that universal human rights "can wait"? If I may borrow some rhetoric from colleague Sunde and his comrades, that's very literally profits before people. Does he now believe that the right to a free market is the only universal human right? What about free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, freedom from want and fear? Far be it from me to tell a colleague what he should believe, but I was hoping the Foreign Minister could enlighten a confused young lady: aren't these human rights essentially a part of his inspiration as well as ours? Nelline Opland (FP - Dreton) Leader of Folkepartiet |
| Date | 17:07:39, October 05, 2015 CET | From | Borgerlig-Demokratiske Union | To | Debating the Foreign Aid Reform Act, 3917 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, once again the source of our conflict can be found in the fact that the hon. lady's idealism collides with the government's realism. Human rights require a solid foundation of economic stability and a certain Level of wealth before they can be institutionalized efficiently. This is the reason for our policy of linking aid to trade rather than to political matters. Erwin Schausberger (Fv) Foreign Minister |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 80 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 51 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 8 |
| Random fact: Real-life religions should not be referenced in Particracy. Terra has its own religions, many of which mirror real-life ones. See: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Illustrated_Catalogue_of_Religion |
| Random quote: "An independent is someone who wants to take the politics out of politics." - Adlai Stevenson |