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Bill: Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Commonwealth Workers Army
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2172
Description[?]:
| As part of an ongoing progression: Since the abdication of his grandfather, Ashur Crucifer, Commissar of the 'Red Dawn Faction', has political leverage to introduce another collection of suggested improvements to the Likatonian political/social landscape. "Friend Ashur" suggests movements towards centralising certain important facilities, in order to protect, and enhance, the services provided. Ashur is something of a Social Reformer... hence the 'social' leanings of proposed legislation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory, public pension system.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Funding of public transport (where applicable).
Old value:: Public transport is partially subsidised with the remainder "user-pays".
Current: Public transport is fully subsidised for people with low-income, with the remainder "user-pays".
Proposed: Public transport is fully subsidised by the government.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: The state contracts with private companies to provide public housing.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: The state owns and maintains all housing.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:40:09, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Progressive Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | We can support Article 1 but would vote no because of the other proposals. |
| Date | 23:52:33, January 14, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | Amended. |
| Date | 00:17:33, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | We can support, although article 4 does worry us somewhat, we would prefer to maintain private ownership of most housing |
| Date | 00:22:10, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | The AAS has to ask... how big an issue is that? Can the IRP support WITH Article 4? |
| Date | 00:23:39, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | Yes, of course we can, we just wondered how big of an issue it was to the AAS. |
| Date | 01:24:51, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Edelweiss Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | We vote against because of article 1 and 4. Every Likaton citizen's main task is to be active as a worker. Their private individual activities can not be conflicting to the concerns of Nation, those who don't agree with that doesn't deserve to have any benefits. The public housing article conflicts with our policy of all Likaton citizens having full liberty in their recreational development. |
| Date | 04:20:02, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | The AAS might be able to reach some kind of middle-ground with the Imperial Socialist Movement.... we intend to push this bill, as is... but we may, in future, abstain if there is a motion to overturn Article 4.... |
| Date | 06:05:31, January 15, 2006 CET | From | JLP Liberation Militia | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | JLP and Comrade Lenin enthusiastically endorse this wonderful proposal. |
| Date | 10:58:36, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Right Wing Liberals Party | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | What is meant by the state owning of all housing? |
| Date | 11:07:38, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | The State owns and maintains all housing. It means exactly what it says. It does not impact the production of housing, except in as much as the state is the client. It doesn't impact the sale of housing, except in as much as the state is the customer. Citizens and nationals contract with the state for residence... a covenant neither side can break for casual reasons... and then live as occupiers in state owned housing. The idea is to charge no explicit cost to the citizen or national... since the cost of housing is implicit in taxation. |
| Date | 11:08:01, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | The AAS thanks the JLP for their support. |
| Date | 21:54:26, January 15, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Anarch Anakrousite Shatter Reform Bill - Red Dawn Agenda (viii) |
| Message | we could support this. please report back to us when ice-skating becomes possible in hell. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 219 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 281 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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